Episode of My First Million with Sam Parr and Shaan Puri.
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Kind: captions Language: en he’s probably the most charismatic guy I’ve ever met my whole life I was like I’m curious do you think we are low ethics do you think you have a sort of a looser ethical criteria than most people for business I think that we have a looser attitude yes but by the way I think it’s significantly above the line of like good like right like for example most people are like I can’t priests all product that I don’t have and I’m like in my head I’m like who cares just refund to people and like you haven’t you something I’m not saying steal money I’m saying advertise something it doesn’t exist you can get demand and proved a man and then you refund the money let’s say you steal from them but yeah you are lying and so I think that’s ethical right yeah I think we definitely have a looser definition than the average person I would say the average maybe the average business person even but there is you know I think the problem here is there’s no standard right there’s no there’s no definition for what’s ethical what’s not it’s completely subjective and judgmental and so the hard part is you know for us we think there’s a line between right and wrong and we’re on the right side we we think we have a safe margin of a buffer where we’re in the right but for other people their line might be in a different spot yeah but that’s because most people aren’t aggressive but anything that I do I would I would suggest to my mom that she buy whatever I’m promoting or like it’s like do I want my family to use this or or if I told them about what I’m doing what I like do I want to hide this right and I don’t I’m I’m anything that I could do I’m not afraid to tell so I met this guy once this guy had reached out to me about we’re building his product called blab and blab was getting popular this guy reached out hey my name is Billy I’m from you know for comers from like Santiago or the firm X or somewhere and let him and he was like I’m coming up to California coming to San Francisco I want to meet you and I want to talk to you about this company I was like okay I don’t know about that like most of people who that are users of a product or not usually people I want to like do meetings with necessarily but he said a bunch of stuff in his email that made him sound amazingly legit he was like my family started the first television station in Mexico we you know I own all these different like music festivals and he said he sounded like super legit but his emails written with blue text font and like different sizes of text yeah no no not like that like it was like IKEA Cho’s like no I’m good at my emails are blue and not the like copy-paste a little purple thing it was like this was just his style so I was like I don’t know this guy’s a joke or not anyways we go out to dinner and I have very low hopes we go to a sushi place and I walk in and I see probably the most handsome guy I’ve ever seen and this guy Billy was extremely well-put-together he’s like in a suit and tie he looks legit he we sit down on the table he orders the omakase which is basically chef’s choice like $200 each sushi dinner and he’s like I got this don’t worry and I’m like okay I’m starting to believe it but you know could be it could still be someone who’s faking it and he starts telling me a story and this guy’s completely legit you know if if I swung that way I’d be in love right now like this guy is amazing so at the end of the dinner I asked him a question I said hey you know you’re a very persuasive guy like this was you clearly are good at this right you’re clearly very personalizing very charming I said I used to think I’m that way till I met you basically I used to think I was in the sort of top tier of that but I always sort of had this hesitation of like you know should I use my my powers for good or evil type of thing like where do you draw the line on using this but this guy’s legit he was a real completely legit and and so he really was wealthy very successful very smart very charming all that good stuff and so I asked him I said you know what do you think he goes my rule is this because if your intentions are good then it’s all fair game and so he was like he was like it all the matters of the intent if you’re trying to scam people if you’re trying to con people if you’re trying to not deliver value if you’re trying to just get something that’s a good situation for you and not for the other person then you shouldn’t be doing it what you shouldn’t be using all these powers persuasion sake but if you think you are genuinely gonna help people if you think you are genuinely in the right if you think you’re gently working for a good cause if your mission is pure if your intent is good then it’s all fair game you should use it to the max and I was like all right Billy thank you very much for this incredible I completely agree with him and if you study you know like persuasion and charm and I use it in the form of copywriting that’s all some people are born better but it’s a teachable skill and I always tell people like what I’m gonna tell you it’s gonna sound like evil like I’m gonna teach you how to manipulate people but make sure you use it for good right because you can easily use this for bad [Music]