Episode of My First Million with Sam Parr and Shaan Puri.
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Kind: captions Language: en this one streamer who we’re talking about what’s his name uh xqc in this case how much money does he make he probably makes between i wanna say three to ten million dollars a year no way really yeah probably five to ten is the easy estimate um ten man ten is not even the upper bound like they these guys can make much more than that maybe up to 20 25 million if they are maxing out their stuff but they don’t always want to do that like uh i taught because i used to negotiate with these guys so you know um even before twitch like when i was just trying to get them to promote our products and it’s like all right i’m going to talk to i want to talk to the streamer like no you don’t get to talk to the streamer you talk to the manager okay fair that’s fine they’re stars i get it all right who’s the manager is it like you know caa or like wme and like for 95 percent of them it’s like oh it’s like his little brother ray ray yeah that was his girlfriend or like you know exactly it’s ray-ray or like oh hey jenny um you know so how long you guys been working together it’s like well we’ve moved in together like when we were 16 and then like he didn’t do anything for five years just played video games all the time and like now he’s rich and so i quit my job to like check his email [Music] this is like the shirt it’s like the it’s like the gen y or gen x whatever what are the young people now called what are the what are the what does the young people call it it’s like gen z it’s like the uh tommy bahama of gen z yeah i was i literally was about to start with the shirt so you’re on to something what kind of what brand is that scotch and soda uh yeah dude gotcha sort of crushes it there was uh two i was i went shopping this weekend and um like whatever the like union square in san francisco and two dudes walked into the uh elevator with their scotch and soda bags and they were so happy it’s like shopping makes people really happy i think that’s an underrated part of shopping is how happy it made them and they were just like it was two guys and they were talking to each other and they were still talking about their shopping which i would say i’ve never experienced that being another dude just first of all going shopping together secondly after shopping not just being like all right it’s done whatever like we don’t even talk about it anymore he was like yeah i’m really happy with the color the guys again the color’s sick and i was like i’m just in the elevator with them and i was like i was like is that moss green [Laughter] is awesome you shop there no i didn’t shop there i was shopping for my wife but um it’s in the same like area whatever like but you were shopping for her like with her she wanted to go by i told you she was trying to buy like a like a designer bag which by the way it the whole experience is crazy have you ever done that have you ever gone like a [ ] you gotta make an appointment yeah well now they it’s like a restaurant now basically they uh you you go you put your name down though like we’ll text you to get in like you can’t just walk into the store yeah and um we go in and it’s like i’ve got two babies and a dog with me so i’m already like you brought your dog to a louis vuitton store yeah it’s my stroller has two children and a dog they’re probably like sir you can’t come in here you have to leave the kids outside they straight up i don’t even think they saw the dog because the dog’s so small and so quiet compared to the kids like i think that just got lost in the shuffle otherwise they for sure would have kicked me out uh but we were like hey you know um we’re here we’re here and we’re just like okay why are you so loud it’s like all right let’s do this and i was so excited just because i was like all right whatever make this an experience and then like five minutes in i became like i went in with the best intentions i was like i’m gonna make this a great experience for my wife she wants this i i’m gonna not just play along i’m gonna like be along i’m gonna [ ] sing along with this and then like literally five to fifteen minutes in i was just like all right like just pick one it’s a small one or the big one i don’t know which one do you like just pick the one you like you’re such a redneck you’re like we’re here and then like five minutes and we’re like hey do you guys sell me like a lemonade or a turkey leg or anything i was like oh they used to offer snacks do you still guys still do that and they’re like we’ve never done that sir and i was like all right where the shot and then like there’s no cheez-its there was like a section for the purses that’s like five stairs up but i got a stroller two children and a dog as you remember so i was like y’all got an elevator and it’s like three stairs they’re like uh yeah there is like a wheelchair lift over here i’m not sure if your wagon will fit but like and then i got stuck in the [ ] wheelchair lift going between like going up a four foot rise i get stuck and then i realize i’m not stuck i just pushed the door and it opens nobody was on the other side to open the door it wasn’t automatic either dude you’re the indian uh curb your enthusiasm yeah that’s exactly how i felt oh dude somebody said this the other day they go um they go i was in l.a you know i was in l.a or whatever in new york somewhere and larry david was there at a a driving range playing golf and they were like um it’s and they’re like it was like some like just like a hole in the wall type of driver not like a nice one they’re like why does larry david go there he’s like oh it’s like mirror where he lives or something so he just popped over it’s like 2 p.m on a tuesday he just wanted to hit some balls and they’re like i overheard him and nobody even nobody pays any attention you know this just looks like an old guy and nobody knows who he is and he’s talking to the lady who sells it gives you the balls the balls are the balls are 11 and he’s like why does he have to be 11 he’s like like he was negotiating the price or like he was complaining about he’s like a super rich guy he’s like it’s not the price eleven dollars now i gotta have a ten but a ten is not enough if you made it ten one bill we’re done now i gotta give you a now what are you gonna give me five and then four once what am i gonna do with these ones it’s like like an actual curb your enthusiasm skills i would definitely like that in real life for sure um all right since we’re talking about entertainment and content i have to tell you about two different things so we’re going to call this segment i’m happy free freaks exist here’s the craziest content that i’ve consumed this weekend have you heard of the show no yeah no definitely not have you uh have you seen this show called naked and afraid i’ve heard of it but i have not watched it it’s like it’s the craziest thing right no it’s worse than that so what they do is they take two strangers and they drop them off in like the jungle in south africa or asia i don’t even know where the exact locations are it’s all over the world but like remote remote locations oftentimes places that’s like 110 degrees during the day and like 50 degrees at night so you’re freezing they take two strangers they put them uh in this area okay they give them nothing sometimes if the water’s really bad they’ll give them just a a a pot just an empty pot and and a machete that’s basically it and they make the two strangers meet and work together to survive for 21 days and they’re completely butt naked they’re they’re not wearing anything they’re entirely naked and they’ve got to like spoon at night to stay warm otherwise they’re going to like shiver and like and like is it it’s not like two dudes to women makes what are we it could be usually so usually uh like a man and a woman but then they like throw like curveballs in there so like they had this like guy i think he was from australia and they played him out like he’s like this like redneck hick guy from australia and then the woman is a transsexual and she comes on and the they set it up so like they like you know how is this conservative guy gonna feel about this and he was totally and like the whole show it was like oh you know it’s okay like everyone’s like unique and and he’s like totally kind and like it’s like oh man he’s breaking the stereotypes and they like hug it out and they’re like we’ll protect one another we’re team and so that’s like you know like one of many ways the show is amazing is like they’re like doing this together it’s ridiculous and the hardest thing i’ve ever seen and i don’t think they get paid a cent even you have to watch this show it’s ridiculous and so they have to survive for how long 21 days 21 days and so what are they doing they’re going and hunting or they’re just like eating uh they’re like usually they’re like we have to make shelter they’re like we have to go figure out how to make a fire sometimes it’s in a rain forest and it’s raining and they’re like i don’t know how we’re going to stay warm we’re not going to eat and so sometimes they won’t eat for days or 10 days uh on one episode a guy made a bow and arrow and shot a bird it was awesome um another episode a guy tried to go and wrestle a crocodile to bring back and to eat um often times i’ve noticed another uh like trait i’ve noticed is usually the women are way tougher and way calmer like significantly like the men are like come out all aggressive like this is gonna be awesome and they’re like trying to cheer the woman on like let’s do this and then they like get worn out after seven days and they bail and the woman just stays by herself and does it uh so usually the it seems that women are mentally uh stronger uh it’s amazing this it’s a it’s a it’s a wild show i cannot believe that like people do this okay that’s amazing uh what does that have to do with uh you put a tweet in here also next to it that’s completely unrelated but i guess it’s under the theme of i’m i’m glad that freaks exist the second thing there’s this guy what’s his name is his name felix felix what’s the url of his website you know is it like felix today how is felix dot today so this freaking guy for eight years he tracked hundreds of different parts of his life so and i have a list up so he tracked the easy ones like weight steps and diet but then uh and then alcohol but then he tracked his mood his stress he used rescue dot me rescue time i think it’s called an app that tracks which programs he was using on his computer how much time he spent on his cell phone his mood his energy his sleep uh how often he how many texts he sent that day how often he talked to friends um if he was more productive in the evening or the day if he took any drugs um what city he was in what the weather was how hungry he felt did he feel lethargic did he feel stressed uh what else did he it was like just so much stuff he had 30 or 40 or 50 000 data points and it’s all done in an engineer-like way where it you know he could say like well i was 46 more likely to say i felt sad if i didn’t see a friend in the trailing three days like there’s like what what are can can you read out some of the findings yes so like for example how how does longer sleep duration like how does sleep affect my day he’s like if i have let’s see so if he had more than eight and a half hours okay i think i think he means less here but he’s 65 percent more likely to have cold symptoms 60 more likely to have a headache he uses social media 40 more when he sleep deprived 30 more likely to be a rainy day that’s interesting yeah crazy stuff 20 less likely to hit the gym actually no longer sleep duration this is so i didn’t read it wrong he’s saying if i sleep more than eight and a half hours all those things are true um which is great read another one read some of the other ones it like it’s pretty this is it’s pretty amazing what you found but then air quality and various rooms like i’m not even going to read what goes beyond that but just like measuring the air quality is crazy uh wow this is wild i’m i’m scrolling i’ve been scrolling for like the entire time you were talking and i’m halfway through this guy’s findings this guy’s he’s not is he okay he’s a nut this guy’s a freak the funny thing is he tracked everything and i’m like is this guy okay i don’t think he’s okay i need an answer it should start at the top is he okay and actually it says felix feels all right and updated one hour ago and it says what city he’s in it’s amazing this first little table is nice wait height sleep and then it goes last meditated 41 days ago inbox 20 emails personal to-do lists 179 tasks wow it’s pretty wild is a sleeping heart rate 459 beats per minute so if you scroll all the way to the bottom he’s got one sentence that kind of like summarizes this and he says do like a con my computer’s not working but if you do like a control f build or something like that you might find it where he says basically building this and having all this information i’m happy i did it because it’s just like a fun way for me to nerd out but it was not beneficial and it doesn’t make sense for anyone else to do this so you were saying the main it says the main conclusion is that it is not worth building your own solution and investing this much time um so that’s on the building your own solution uh i’m very happy that i built this project in the first place it gave me much better awareness of everything going on in my life uh i’m excited i’m excited to have this uh have built this website to wrap up this project and showcase some outcomes so he’s done this for eight years you said amazing right yeah truly amazing how’d you find this guy on twitter how is felix dot today if you want to go check it out it’s nice it’s amazing it’s actually pretty nice i’m not gonna lie it’s awesome it’s totally unnecessary and absolutely amazing like i would like to have this if i just could do no work or like you know touch a button once every five hours like you know i’m down to do that but i don’t want to remember to log all this stuff his story and so this guy’s incredibly interesting his story i i read i like researched a lot of them because i i thought he was amazing he said he moved where does it say where he’s from is he from vienna or somewhere like that yeah and he moved to san francisco in 2015 to work at twitter and then after a year he was like you know i don’t really like having an apartment i’m only going to live on an airbnb in san francisco and then he was like i’m just gonna leave san francisco and so for the past like seven years he’s only like he doesn’t own anything other than a suitcase i think and that’s how he’s been living good for him i like it i like the uh i like the segment too i’m glad that freaks exist can i tell you about uh another freak all right elon musk so the the but this is not actually about elon this is about his wife have you ever stumbled down the rabbit hole that is justine musk on quora she talks a lot of crap she airs out a lot of their she’s she like is it sounds like elon didn’t treat her wonderfully and she lets the world know like she airs out their laundry well i don’t know i don’t know about all that what did she do that that aired out as laundry i’m not sure that that’s true she said that he was driven and everything but she also said like uh i don’t want to exactly paraphrase i don’t remember entirely but i remember like she gave like a ted talk and on quora she’s like yeah it’s just like living with him was horrible because he wasn’t there he clear we were all like second and third place to his work yeah yeah so she says things that you would that’s not airing out of dirty laundry yes i don’t know just come that’s common sense almost uh he’s had like three wives i’m pretty sure you know something’s not great about the experience otherwise you know may have lasted for longer uh but dude i find her her quora to be fascinating she has and it’s not all just oh let me tell you about elon musk it’s like you know she answers questions about a bunch of stuff and she’s done it for six years an author seven years yes so she’s an author she’s very smart novelist um and so she answers some questions i will give you a couple of the the answers that she gave so somebody said how can i be as great as bill gates steve jobs elon musk or uh or richard branson and so uh where’s her answer let me find it have you been watching the johnny depp trial a little bit dude it’s wow so good it’s so good it’s so exciting why are people why is this so fascinating to people there is okay you want to know another freaks exist uh moment go to um go to this instagram account before i even go back to this justine musk thing this is crazy and this is also like kind of interesting i wouldn’t have guessed that this is a thing but go to the instagram account that’s called what is it called how is habit or something like that it’s called what’s it called house inhabit so this person jessica reed krauss wow what are the odds both of them felix krauss and jessica krauss maybe they’re married these two freaks so she lives in southern california uh and she calls herself the queen of the carpool the hollywood philosopher uh stereotypical scorpio tendencies and then she puts her venmo on here just to give you a quick sense of what we’re dealing with okay so what’s the scorpio i don’t understand what that route is all like la things it’s like you know here’s my favorite crystal here’s my horoscope here’s my venmo and here’s my casting tape so um all right so she basically covers trial like hollywood gossip but in the craziest amount of detail you’ll ever see so look at her father account she’s got 850 000 followers that’s just like an independent person and she’s been posting every day about the trial like if you go click her story there’s like 50 like maybe more oh my god there’s like 80 story frames right to like tap through and she edits it like crazy it’s like insane so like um today’s not a good one because it’s like there wasn’t like a trial thing but like if you click like 10 in it’ll be like she’ll cut like a little clip of johnny walking in and then there’s music she overlays and then there’s like a little thing that she cuts in this news clip from fox and then she adds on top of that then she transcribes a whole bunch of stuff and like puts the transcript there then she does the background research and so i know several people who are following the whole trial they don’t watch a single minute of the trial they don’t read the news they just follow it through her story because it because it is so crazy in depth and somewhat addictive and entertaining and like first when the first person told me i was like okay that’s weird whatever you you got into something weird then i heard it again and i was like you also follow that random person and the yeah it’s great and then i looked at then i looked him up and she has 850 000 followers and i was like holy [ ] this is crazy that this is like one of those niches that you wouldn’t even really know exists but of course it exists and of course it’s a big deal it basically takes the tabloid but it repackages it from a tabloid into like any individual person’s instagram can become the juiciest tabloid in the world if you just put in the effort and she puts in mad effort what she just covered i was looking at her stories that there was a guy a couple of days ago he looked like he was dressed like he was about to go to be a waiter at a restaurant and he couldn’t be at the trial so he was on zoom and he was in his car and he was sitting there with the zoo with this camera from him and he starts vaping on the call and you see him like take a hit of vape and like exhale all this smoke while he’s sitting in his car waiting for the judge to ask a question and then uh it’s clear that like he’s got to go so he starts driving out of the parking lot like while and vaping while he’s answering the calls and he’s like all right you guys good dance it’s everything all right i gotta go he’s just he’s like like vaping while driving away during this trial but uh all right what about justine okay so justine musk okay so somebody asked will i become a billionaire if i’m determined to be one and i put in the necessary work uh her first answer no one of the qualities of a self-made billionaire is their ability to ask the right question that is not the right question it’s not to say it’s a bad question it just won’t get you to the part of your mind uh that’s working to help you and mulling things over while you’re doing up other things and sending up flares of insight you’re determined so what you haven’t been you haven’t been racing naked through shark infested waters yet will you be determined when you wash up on some deserted island disoriented bloody ragged beaten staring off into the horizon with no sign of rescue and she’s like so she goes through and she’s like the world doesn’t hit like the final thing the world doesn’t throw a billion dollars at the person because they want it or because they work so hard they feel they deserve it the world does not know doesn’t care what you want or deserve the world gives you in exchange for something it perceives to be of equal or greater value and um anyway so she goes through and and basically like you know the long story short was no a billionaire doesn’t come on cora and ask these types of questions uh but it’ll be like if you just go through and deep dive dive through to search her on on on quora and it’s a fun like 20 minute read because i think you get little snapshots into somebody who knows elon musk really well and has been around somebody of that like you know kind of like the greatest entrepreneur and inventor of our lifetime um somebody who knows them from a different angle but then also somebody who’s just like smart and objective so they’re not a fanboy nor are they a hater it’s like someone who i actually kind of respect and you know believe their opinion on these things obviously everybody’s got their bias but i feel like with elon musk normally it’s 100 fanboy or 100 hater um or just completely uninformed and like this is none of the above this is something else this is informed are there any other good ones that she’s written up uh yeah there’s a bunch that are just on so i started with the elon ones and then it’ll be like you know um you know i’ll be like you know should i how should i break up with my girlfriend it’s like let’s see what she has to say about that and like you just read like you know her kind of take on philosophy i don’t know she’s a fascinating character the other one is grimes just did a podcast with lex friedman i don’t know if you saw saw that i heard about it so elon’s current i don’t know what i don’t know if they’re married girlfriend something baby mama i think they’ve had two babies together but they’re not married or something like that they’re not together anymore uh she did a podcast and you could definitely see how these people would get along like she even talks like elon in this kind of like slow measured weird like finality type of way of speaking uh but she was talking about like you know like how to raise kids or like you know looks like they’re like you know what do you think about like you know uh free speech on twitter or something like that lex tried to ask her and she’s like i i do not think i should have an opinion on this he’s like oh my god and then which is like such an elon thing to say she’s like i feel you know i’m too close to the situation i actually i should not have an opinion on this i should i shouldn’t have an opinion on this oh my god it would not be it would not not be productive to this future of humanity does she come off that weird kind of yeah it’s like not like i thought i don’t know i knew nothing about her so like you know by just uh from afar is like oh i think he married like a musician or something like that okay she’s probably like you know like some you know just like beautiful happy bubbly pop star and it’s like no it’s not that at all okay she’s kind of like alternative all right i get it but still you know like i don’t know charismatic charismatic and into like uh just like kind of like a extrovert people person and instead it was like you know she was like oh uh they were like how’s it been you know like tell me about like you just had a baby you know what’s what’s mother had been like for you or whatever and she’s like it reminds me of my favorite uh graphic novel sci-fi graphic novel um uh and then she named some japanese like graphic novel you know like no one’s she’s like have you read it and he’s like no and then she’s like it’s called um i have no mouth but i must scream and that’s awesome and that’s what having this baby feels like because they’re helpless right they can’t even control their muscles they move they can’t say what they want they can’t express what they need but they need something and they’re trying to scream but it’s as if they have no mouth i was like whoa like pretty dark take on like motherhood but like i don’t know also interesting and insightful at the same time um but yeah that’s been kind of my like that’s that’s my contribution to the uh i’m happy that that freaks exist because like yeah i’m happy that there’s people that are so different so interesting and we will live life in a way that’s like interesting but like uncomfortable and i get to be comfortable and just watch them do interesting things like you know that dude i love it that teddy roosevelt quote that everybody all every entrepreneur loves to put on [ ] insulin like the the man in the arena it is not the critic who couch it’s the man in the arena who’s bloody and beaten and whatever you know what it’s also tight to not be bloody and beat it’s time to be just a casual fan in the arena eating popcorn watching other people get beaten up and then going back to your daily life like that’s actually a pretty tight position that like most people should go into and not try to be like you know the gladiator dying in the arena or the critic hater you don’t need to be either one our software is the worst have you heard of hubspot see most crms are a cobble together mess but hubspot is easy to adopt and actually looks gorgeous i think i love our new crm our software is the best hubspot grow better dude do you realize that to some people i think you and i are that entertainment where like i’ll have some people like reach out to me and i think it happens to you it’s like oh you should do blank it’s like you really just want me to dance for you yeah that’s really yeah just tell me to dance that would be a lot easier that’ll only take a few minutes you want me to dedicate three years of my life to starting blank yeah you guys should talk about this oh you want me to go get a phd in something i don’t know about okay cool that’s not how the podcast works but here’s how the podcast works i’m weird and don’t realize it then i come talk to sam he’s weird and doesn’t realize it then we kind of point out oh that’s weird about each other then we go away and like you guys think we’re both yeah i mean we are that to some people where they’re just like want us to dance um but dude that’s why i love the the youtubers like there’s this guy i’ve been following i think it’s called like whistling diesel there’s all these youtubers where uh they got they get what does that pretty cool whistling i think it’s whistling diesel so he like has all this acreage out in indiana i think and he just uh like builds cool trucks and cars and just like wrecks them basically uh like you know he’ll build like um remember as a kid i think it was called the power wheel it’s like the like the little toy trucks for kids where you like sit in it he’ll build one i’ll take one of those it’s not really one of those but he like builds a version of that that has a massive gas engine in it it goes like 120 miles an hour but it looks like a power wheel so just like doing things that like you think you would want to do in the country but what’s in or you know when you’re out in the land and like just breaking [ ] and like blowing stuff up doing all that but what’s crazy is these guys do it and then they start making money from it and they’re like all right now we have more money to spend bigger stuff to blow stuff up and to build stuff like or there’s all these guys on youtube who will like get like a 50 caliber rifle so like this gun that’s like huge and scary and they’re like you think it can shoot through that car like let’s just try it let’s see if it’ll go straight through the car or what would happen if we just shot this at like a huge block of metal how deep will it go like just all these like stupid stuff that you would just only do like either when you’re high or you just dream of but you’re afraid of losing all this money they do it and i get to live through them and i love that wow that’s cool they’re actually kind of related note uh so mr beast basically does this but he’s like exactly and you know he’s almost like a hundred million subscribers on youtube so did you see this thing that was going on last night i i doubt you did because it’s like you know you said you’re gen y this is like gen z you know [ ] but basically there was a celebrity poker game last night with basically it was this public game last night that had like i don’t know how many like 50 000 or more people watching it live um streamed on on twitch and youtube and it had mr beast who’s the number one youtuber uh like or whatever one of the biggest youtubers ninja who was the biggest streamer for like a long period of time xqc who’s the biggest uh like one of the biggest twitch streamers also there’s basically like four or five huge content creators then it was phil hellmuth who’s this like famous like pro poker player that’s on tv all the time tom dwan who’s like one of the greatest poker players ever so it’s like a couple of pros and a couple of uh content creators and they came in it was a 50 000 buy-in game but they could rebuy and so it was called the million dollar game and basically this was being live stream last night and none of them were like playing seriously because they were like hey they’re all rich and b they were trying to make for good content um and so they were like they played this game it was very entertaining game it was probably like the one of the most entertaining like uh i don’t know like online or like uh tv poker games that i’ve seen like in a long time and uh i just thought it was a great idea that’s a that’s a pretty short list i would imagine though no i’ve been watching for a long time so i i actually care about about online about poker and have watched a bunch of like world series of pokers or so what happened so basically uh shout out to to our girl alexander botez do you know her she’s the chess girl okay i i did a pie oh yeah we’ve talked about her i did a podcast yeah so she’s uh a streamer content creator who’s like her and her sister i don’t think they’re twins but i think they’re they’re sisters they um they’re like chess mat like i don’t know if they’re grandmaster or their master players or whatever but they’re like they’re like great at chess but also great at content so they have like a big following or whatever and so she just cleaned up in this game and she’s not like a great poker player it’s just like they would they were all kind of playing very loose and she won like a half a million dollar pot like you know just kind of like with ace nine that’s like kind of like a lucky hand or whatever and uh the pros were sitting there like just kind of waiting for a good car like waiting for good to play good cards or just playing smart whereas mr beast was like just playing kind of like ever any hand he could get into and then he’d be like he’s just he’s like i just want one clip to go viral like that’s what i’m here for is for one clip to go viral because they’re like i can poke or you could do this thing where once both people go all in you could say all right normally you would just there’s only one card left and like one of us will win one of us to lose but you could do something called running it twice which kind of like smoothens out the like um the variability like it’s like running multiple times in a simulation so you’ll get like more possible outcomes so you can run it once run it twice running three times one or four times and he’s like no we’re gonna run it once he’s like we need this clip to go viral it needs to be the highest stakes with the biggest heartbreak and like the easiest to understand and you can see the poker pros were like oh okay like i guess so i guess that makes makes sense it’s like to be so funny just to see uh these guys playing with totally different like agendas and styles and also they were mic’d up the whole time and there was no edits because it was live and so you could just hear them like bullshitting about whatever to each other and like you know people from different worlds kind of just like so you do this like i was like so like you know uh how much how often do you play he’s like oh i’ve been i don’t play like this is the first day off i’ve taken in four years he’s like what do you mean like uh how often do you stream because i stream every day for 10 hours a day he’s like what he’s like yeah and he’s like uh this is one of the few like one of the rare this guy xqc and there and they’re like how long have you been do that for like seven years i don’t understand the poker player looked at the streamer like you degenerate which is hilarious because the poker player is normally like the biggest degenerate who sits at a table playing you know this like stupid card game for five hours straight losing money is that real well someone will someone really stream for seven years every single day for 10 hours yeah yeah that happens uh like not 10 usually it’s not those exact numbers but people have streamed every day for 10 years and they’ll stream like five hour streams or something like that as like their their normal stream and some guys do 10 hour streams and then they’ll usually take one day off a week maybe actually i don’t know specifics but like yeah he he he’s a like he’s a nut and when he’s streaming what’s he doing he’s playing video games any game so he yeah he was like big in overwatch but then overwatch stopped getting like popular but he got more popular because his personality is pretty big like he just kind of gets wild on the stream and so now he’ll go he’ll do whatever he’ll play in a virtual farm simulator he’ll play like you know a shooting game he’ll play like whatever the game is he calls himself a variety streamer which is basically like at that point they’ve stopped coming for the game and they’re coming for you and is he funny like yeah what what he’s what’s great about him uh he’s funny and he like he like rage he like gets enraged pretty quickly which is like a big thing on twitch is like you gotta like show emotion so like you see in basketball or like golf is the ultimate example of this uh and this is where i think traditional sports can learn a lot from online content because traditional sports they teach you like if you ever watch a basketball press conference they’re the most boring in the world it’s like yeah we’re just gonna take it one game at a time you know they’re a great team add respect to them uh you know we just gotta keep putting one foot in front of the other it’s like oh great you know like super boring whereas you you and i love ufc because that one guy would be like he ain’t [ ] i’m gonna kick his team his ass and his whole team’s ass you know like they just like they like talk [ ] to each other so that adds a level of like drama and excitement streaming is like that but like 24 7 where they’re just constantly you know talking [ ] to them to their teammates about themselves about you know the game about like the characters about the strategy about whatever so they show a ton of emotion so if he loses he’ll throw the mouse he’ll break the keyboard he’ll like you know like spit and scream and you know like he’ll get angry how does he have enough energy to do that every single day it’s just what he does man it’s like he that’s and you just sit and he’s sitting in a chair for he’s sitting at a chair for 10 hours a day look different yeah you may not like this but it is peak physical performance exactly somebody said this thing there was this hilarious line during the thing so she won the the alexander won the 500 000 pot and then she like won another pot she was like up 600 grand she came in with 50k and she had like a 650 000 chip stack and like she had so many chips she couldn’t even stack them in time like the next hand needed to be dealt but her giant her giant chip stack was just blocking the tap the table and she’s like um i need help stacking the chips and they were like [ ] you we’re not gonna help you stack your chips you just took from us and like the pit boss comes over they’re helping and then mr peace goes she’s single-handedly gonna close the wage gap yeah they’re just trolls and uh it’s just amazing it was amazing and i just thought that was a great idea by the way i like a like a high stakes poker game amongst personalities in any niche i actually think that’s a good marketing idea i want to say three to ten million dollars a year probably five to ten years is the easy estimate um ten man ten is not even the upper bound like they fair that’s fine there’s stars i get it you know caa or like wme and like for 95 percent of them it’s like oh it’s like his little brother ray ray yeah that was his girlfriend or like you know exactly it’s ray ray or like oh hey jenny um you know now he’s rich and so i quit my job to like check his email because they’ll be they’ll be like yeah we do like brand deals i’m like cool so like do you have like a deck you guys can share about like you know his stats they’re like no you could just like go on and see how many people watch them it’s like a lot and it’s like it’s like so like you have this deal with like red bull like logitech like surely you have like a brand and like like you know when you pitch them like we don’t pitch anybody like like basically and you know as i got to know people it’s like they just get inbound into their email and then they just decide they ignore 95 of it even though it’s people literally throwing them like like people can get paid like the small even like like less high profile like ninja is a different tier right ninja does have a proper manager and like actually his girlfriend i think is his manager now his wife uh but like he had a proper agency behind him and they pitched red bull and all this stuff but like most streamers somebody will approach and be like hey i’ll pay you 2000 an hour to play my game today and they’re like nah that game looks boring i’m not gonna do it right because like they don’t want to lose their audience or like piss off their audience too much or be seen as selling out and so they turned down so many opportunities that they could have because they don’t want to be seen as a sellout nor do they want to like bother with anything it’s like dude by the time i’m done streaming for 10 hours like imagine doing this podcast 10 hours a day or eight hours a day you have zero energy left to like do anything else and so you just like you don’t want to even think about it so and do a lot of them have any expenses so or are they just paying taxes and rent and they’re just stacking cash yeah that’s exactly it some of these streamers i mean they could be worth 30 or 40 million dollars liquid yeah that’s crazy isn’t it yeah like uh ninja got paid you know i can’t say the number but stupid money to go stream on mixer like a competitor to twitch i think it got leaked i think the number got leaked because uh something happened yeah maybe i think i think twitch got hacked and like all the spreadsheet got out remember you know i’m talking about well that’s the that’s pretty visible anyways that’s that’s just what they earn directly so basically like the fans subscribe five dollars a month or six dollars a month or whatever to the channel in order to kind of just like show their support and get like special emojis that they get to use and uh sometimes the streamer can turn around where subscriber only chat but for the most part like they get donations that that most people can’t see how much donations they get uh then they get subscribers directly that’s a monthly recurring subscription then there’s brand deals and sponsors that didn’t show up in the twitch thing because that goes direct and it’s like they just pay the streamer directly it’s not part of twitch and so there’s like other uh and then you know games come to them and pay them hey we’re doing a brand launch we want all ten of the big streamers all playing valerian today and they’ll drop you know five million dollars on that campaign because they know that if they do that they become the it game and millions of people will get to see their favorite streamer playing the game and saying how awesome it is or whatever showing it off and so it’s worth it to them because they’re going to make way more than that have you seen intro.com have you been intro.com yeah i looked at investing in it but i decided not to so i talked to the guy who started like i went to uh i went to like a car racing class and he like a friend of a friend brought him and i had to hang out with him he’s a cool guy and he was like hey just sign up for intro dot com and basically what it you do is you just like put that you’re available a certain hours amount of uh certain hours a week and someone will pay you like two thousand dollars an hour in 15 minute incr increments to talk to you and i was like i don’t know man i feel kind of sleazy doing that and he was like well just try and i was like okay well you know you seem nice whatever i’ll kind of do it just to like geek out and try this new product and i signed up for it and i’ve been getting bookings like crazy and between i’m i’m at the phase now a little bit where you know it’s coming up on uh this july will be a year and a half since the acquisition uh it’s like how many years you’ve been married i have no idea how many years ago year and a half 16 months it’s like well which uh which time zone are we are we thinking here because i can tell you so it’s coming up to that time and i’m all right do i like start a new company what am i going to do uh what should i be doing and i sign up to intro and we’re doing this and i got that little copy that thing and i got like this airbnb and i’m like well besides like the fact that like i could live off interest like off my nut i’m like that’s kind of cool like there’s all this income coming in there’s so much and i’m not trying to i’m trying to do this like brag [ ] but i’m saying like for a creator that has a mildly big audience there are so many ways to make money it’s pretty astounding and we’re not even that i mean we’re just like semi-popular and a relatively small niche so like let alone if you’re like these twitch guys and you you’re you’re actually really popular but it’s pretty astounding how many like revenue streams are available to us just because of all these this like weird all these creator type tool things totally like i saw uh some guy tweeted today he goes bro at elon musk give me my blue check back and had like 80 000 likes i was like who is this guy he’s like he’s a soccer player at like man city or something like that and i was like and he’s got like millions of followers i was like wow you know like it’s like there’s so many levels of fame like that guy’s not famous at all compared to like you know justin bieber or whatever and justin bieber’s not famous compared to whoever but like you know down if you go 20 rungs down the ladder it’s like we’re like moderately known in a tiny niche and then i sent you that link of that those guys who discuss like uh they’re like bodybuilders or something like that are they they’re discussing like working out or something like that they’re like wait wait guessing setup oh uh yeah i was on their podcast they’re awesome what yeah yeah i was on their podcast a couple years ago the uh mind body wow is it mind body pump or just mind body that’s the ultimate resume for your uh for your fitness influencer career i did it looking at youtube yeah they were like i think that video had like i don’t know i want to say 80 000 views or 150 000 views or something like that but just not like you hear of bigger numbers but that’s big that’s like we get less than that on our youtube and i feel like we’re big now they’re big and they’re in just like another niche but their niche lets them do a lot more because more broad appeal like there’s a bunch of dudes out there who want to be like more muscular like people want to lose weight and so you know they can flip on one you know white labeled supplement or course or whatever the heck they want and you know that that type of following can print uh i don’t know again five to ten million dollars a year for sure profitably you know without the stress of being an entrepreneur trying to invent a new product and go into a new niche and then it also has a bunch of downsides right like the guys streaming 10 hours a day for seven years straight like the biggest problem with content is you’re usually on a treadmill and like you know you feel like you can’t get off like twitch streamers have this all the time or they feel burnt out because they’re just like they feel like if they stop they’ll lose everything and it’s true if they stop they actually do lose quite a bit of like uh you know like sway with not only you know their subscribers but the algorithm and things like that so you know i think that’s the downside of these models you have to build a business that’s beyond that so those guys the what’s it called the uh i listen to it all the time i’m totally blanking mind body pump is that what it’s with sal and adam uh it’s like the they’re based out of a sacramento so they um they just bought a bunch of airbnb they bought a bunch of properties and they’re turning them into fitness airbnbs and so that’s like a good example that well it will it’ll extend beyond them but uh yeah i mean like what do you do like have there been any examples i think you know who jenna marbles is so she’s like she was got popular in my mind when she was on barstool and then she bailed and went to youtube and became like one of the biggest youtubers of all time i’m pretty sure that she like got her cash and got her money and i don’t even think she posts anymore even though she has many many tens of millions of subscribers how many i my internet’s slow so i can’t even pull it up how many subscribers yeah she’s got a ton on youtube i think it’s like 50 or 60 million she was one of the first people to get popular i feel like she got popular like i want to even say before youtube she got 19 million subscribers she’s been on for 10 years uh when was her last video i have no idea uh is she still posting regularly i don’t think she posts per post regularly but she has a a brand of dog toys called kermie and worm and mr marbles um so she was one of she she’s had 20 if she said she has 20 million or 18 million she’s had that forever and i’m pretty sure she’s just like made her money and bailed and just left yeah like her last video was one year ago it was casey neistat did that too right he was vlogging every day and then he got paid and he just says i’m out it’s the way to go so i think if you’re on on that intense of a treadmill it’s it’s pretty tough if you can’t like you know get you out of it by the way there’s a guy who tweeted at us he’s like i i think he listens to the podcast um i’m gonna find his like exact details later uh because it’s hard to just twitter dm searches like impossible but basically there’s a guy who’s just buying up uh youtube channels that are non-faced non-face youtube channels such as they’re branded as something else um so there’s no jenna marbles there’s no personality to it and uh he buys these up for you know he basically you know he’s just looking at their youtube like uh he’s looking at their youtube like you know revenues or whatever and he’s like cool i’ll make you this offer so i can uh i can buy this thing out for this much or whatever and uh and it’s like interesting i hadn’t really heard of somebody rolling up youtube channels like that but i think that’s a pretty cool niche i think that would be a good idea i think if you did it with a face it’d be a horrible idea because i imagine that if you could make a list of people who you’d like to have work for you a youtuber would be incredibly low on that list well yeah right it’s hard to buy them out right because they you know they no longer have the motivation to uh to create content and then you’re stuck because you can’t just be like hey it’s me now i’m here yeah it’s me louis vuitton i’m here all right what else do we want to do let’s do one other random one dude so have you ever filed for a trademark uh yourself it’s kind of a pain in the butt in it i think i had a lawyer do it yeah but i like went through i tried originally bootstrapping it and just like do it on my own i didn’t know how to do it so i get this i get this letter so this letter comes in the mail uh six months after we file it’s from this company called i don’t know if you can see this wtp i’m like oh maybe it sounds about it it’s about our yeah sounds legit uh it says at the top trademark publications and it’s got our company name our address and it says reference number blah blah blah application date blah blah classes blah blah blah and then it has a giant thing of our trademark and it says here’s your fee for uh 1 420 please pay the amount on acceptance within ten days by check don’t forget to quote your reference number make it payable to a scam wtp um like oh cool but i thought i uh pretty sure i already paid for the trademark so who who is this what’s this for and then here’s what it says in the like look at this uh fine print here in the bottom yeah in the bottom box here so like you see this like size three print uh so here’s what this says dear madame or sir oh now you’re sounding like my uncle in india writing an email to me dude anytime i get a dear sir i know it’s i know it’s not good yeah a dear sir and uh i hate mine dear sucka um all right so it says the publication of your public registration is the publication of your public registration of your trademark is the basis of our offer what does that mean all they’re going to do is just publicize that we have made a trademark that’s what they’re charging me for 1400 for do they work for the trademark office no it says so here’s what it says this is an offer for free entry into our database www www.wptw register.com this is not an invoice you are not required to pay the above amount unless you accept this offer all of the details in our general terms and conditions right it’s like what a scam and you know all they do is they just monitor every trademark filing which is like yeah gotta be you know i don’t know whatever tens of thousands a year and then they just send this letter out and they’re just fishing for a sucker they’re fishing dude it’s just like sir out there the the car and the one sir yes sir short for sucker they’re just looking for uh have you seen the car warranty or home warranty [ __ ] no is it the same it’s the same thing have you ever met anyone who runs one of these scams no if i did i’d give them a strong talking to it would be really fun to like just like have you seen on the office they go uh michael scott has to ask a question but he can’t sound mean and instead of saying how do you sleep at night he just says how do you sleep at night that’s just like that and that’s like what like it’s like like the bosses are around but toby’s leaving and then he’s gotta change his question to like where do you get off who do you think you are that’s like the type of questions i want to ask these people what do you like what do you how do you go to bed at night knowing that you’re just uh that’s one question to you wtp how do you sleep at night yeah that’s what we want to know here at michael you sleep at night that’s amazing all right we can wrap it up there i had a bunch of ideas we didn’t talk about any of them but that’s okay we’ll do it next spot you