Episode of My First Million with Sam Parr and Shaan Puri.
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Kind: captions Language: en but this is also like part of this deep fakes like this deep fakes problem and so if you don’t know what a deep fake is a deep fake is basically people can now use technology to make a video look real you can make anything look so for example what they do is they’ll take Obama Obama’s talking yeah but I can just say any sentence I could just be like hey hey my name’s Barack and I’m the worst president of all time and it’ll make it look like his lips are moving to my sentence because they basically feed in a bunch of footage of Obama talking normally and it basically the algorithm learns okay here’s how Obama’s face moves when he says certain things and then when I I can input any audio and it’ll make it look like he’s doing it now right now the technology is where it looks a little off but it’s not that far off like if I showed it to my god all they leave it off right but it’s just getting better month over month so they just showed a like a paper just came out with a new one and it’s literally just taking a still photo so they took the Mona Lisa and then they do the same thing I can go say a sentence and it will make the Mona Lisa say it like the voice can is that good so like it’s pretty crazy that they can just do that off a still photo you don’t even need like hours and hours of raw footage of the person in order to do this now so I downloaded an app that does that with the Mona Lisa which app is that do you remember yeah it’s amazing I’ll tell you what it’s called it’s really neat and I think that everyone should download this stuff I paid $5.00 for it it’s called no I don’t remember the name of it I got no worries but what do you think of this whole defacing cuz there’s a big problem like your sister’s a lawyer and I think she was she was like a DA before right yeah well and then she’s a public defender in the Bronx and people yeah now it’s like if you can’t trust what you see right if audio like we have photos that could be Photoshop audio now that can be like live bird I think the name of it where basically you just you just ha you can do you you can train you can train this system to where you could just type anything and it will say it in your voice or it’ll say Amen Donald Trump’s voice so if you can’t believe what you see what you hear or what’s in video then how does that like mess up the world like fake news is gonna become a bigger problem yeah it’s gonna become a problem why are we defaulting to that why are we worrying about I mean yeah it’s gonna be a problem but also let’s think about all the amazing things like like act like there’s gonna be fake actors like my dance like your dance video like it’s gonna make movies amazing like like Brad Pitt won’t exist don’t be it will be it’ll be a Jay Pitt it will be something fake person and I think that’s awesome so here’s a future world you literally are just looking at your computer and instead like today if you want to make a movie or an animation you have to like be an animator or a movie editor or an artist to be able to draw you’re just gonna be able to say things and it’s gonna be able to create what you’re what you’re saying so you’re gonna be able to say okay what if Donald Trump was talking to you know whatever Barack Obama and then Donald jumped in the air and he said this and then literally it’s just gonna be able to animate that’s how that’s how far this is gonna go and that’s gonna unlock the ability to create stuff to people who don’t have the technical skills to do it today yeah I mean I’m I’m not too worried about how they’re gonna regulate it because like if you have a political ad now it like anyone can run an ad on Facebook or on TV and it says Donald Trump I’m Donald Trump and I hate Mexicans anyone can do that now but I mean like literally the tech like you could buy ads but there are ways to say like well no that’s not allowed and it has to say like I’m Donald Trump and I support this you know what I mean like there are ways to like Woody man like if you wrote a TV a political TV ad right now it has to say who pays for it sure it has to say is this like it doesn’t have to be it doesn’t have to be a political thing right this can go for anyone someone in high school could just bully somebody else like right yeah I think things deep fakes got famous because people were putting other people’s faces on porn actors and you could make it look like I could take a photo of your mom and I could put it on it put it into a porno and it would look like your mom’s in the porno and people were doing this with celebrities people were doing this with their classmates and you know the reddit the subreddit for this got huge is all slob fix our slash deep fakes and so this is how we got popular because it was like this incredible bullying tool like forget about political ads it’s just like slander left and right it did it did it get taken down that subreddit no I I think it’s still up I haven’t been in a long time but when it first blew up you know it got really popular because people were you know if oh yeah it is banned from reddit now because it was like it was becoming a problem oh yeah but that didn’t stop the actual the actual problem it stopped the subreddit where people are sharing it so so I think there’s going to be a massive massive problem for evidence I think it’s a bit gonna become a massive problem for just like slander and you know spin like I could I could take a video of you it’d make it say that you hate Mexican people and it’s not Trump and and people would believe it because they would see your face and they would say I saw him say that yeah yeah I don’t know and so I’ll tell you what some people are trying to do to combat this there’s a whole bunch of programmers who programmers in general I have a high bar for the truth they really want things to be true logical solvable rule up reliable and so when you take away evidence evidence which used to be a source of truth it’s like well you’re saying this but I have video of you doing that thing so that’s evidence but now it’s like well this video could be anything this video could be fake so they’re trying to solve the way that they think it can be solved so the theory is anything you make to sort of validate stuff the con artists will always be one step ahead and there’s too big of a payoff to be able to fake this stuff well it’s like a counterfeit er and so you’re always a cat-and-mouse game which is not a winning solution so the solution that they believe is that the phone makers themselves the device makers themselves will need to put a cryptographic seal on the video when it’s taken it’s like a tamper-proof seal like we have with medicine or whatever where it’s like if this seal is broken that means this videos been edited in some way and so at some point people will only trust videos or photos that have this this cryptographic seal on them that says this has not been edited because it’s it’s on the device itself from when it got captured it gets instantly implemented on and so it was working on that well the problem is startup can’t do this right because it’s actually Apple that needs to implement it it’s actually Samsung that needs to implement this and so luckily apples are pretty privacy conscious company and they know that like if their tools are being used for evil they’d usually actually do stuff about it so hopefully Apple is working on this but I have a friend who was doing a start-up trying to do this and he was running into this problem which is like look the people who need to do this are all all the camera makers like you know the security camera itself needs to do this and that’s the only like decent solution now some technical people will say oh there’s nothing that’s actually tamper proof you can still you can still you know get around it but it’s better and there they are right but there are still things where it’s mostly works right exactly no I think that’s the world that’s the way the world is going to work later where you’re gonna need to see this little you know icon that says it’s like you know it’s the gluten-free icon it’s the organic organic icon it’s gonna be this is legitimate and there’s gonna be a legitimacy icon on any foot that’s the icon business that’s a good business you know JD power [Music]