This episode of My First Million features hosts Sam Parr and Shaan Puri interviewing Dan Held, a prominent figure in the Bitcoin space, to discuss his background, the origins of Bitcoin, and various crypto-related business ideas. They explore the history of Bitcoin, the potential for new crypto-based services, and the evolving landscape of the creator economy.
Topics: Bitcoin, Cryptocurrency, Entrepreneurship, Creator Economy, Startup Ideas, Finance, Web3
Introduction [00:00]
Shaan Puri: If you told me that it makes him personally $30 million spread evenly over the next 10 years, I wouldn’t be surprised.
Sam Parr: All right, what up? Uh, Shaan here, we got Sam, and then we got special guest Dan Held, the Dan Held from the Bitcoin space, and on Twitter, you’ve probably seen him around. I told my brother-in-law, um, that you were on the pod today. He was very excited. I’ve told him about every guest so far, and you got one of the biggest reactions. He was a, I think he’s a paid subscriber to your newsletter or something like that. So he’s, he’s very into you. And on the other hand, I think Sam has no fucking clue who you are. So I think it’s a perfect mix. I know some stuff about you, Sam knows nothing about you, and I think it’ll be fun for that reason.
Dan Held: I only know that Shaan says that you’re cool and you’re in Bitcoin. I know nothing about you.
Shaan Puri: Well, we got an hour to figure it out. Whenever we, whenever one of us proposes a guest, it’s like, you put that guest, it’s like you have to go take the stand and have an oath that this person is going to be good, and then you better be able to lawyer up and defend why this person’s a guest. And so, he’ll, anytime he mentions a name to me, I’m like, “Why the fuck are we having that person on?” And then he’ll like defend it. And then same here, I was like, “No, no, no, this is going to be, going to be interesting,” because a couple, I think a couple reasons. We should talk about crypto, and then we should talk about, I think like, kind of like building your personal brand because you’ve done a really good job of that. And so, we’ll, we’ll do both of those during this, during this convo. But I want to start with like, give people the like, what’s the one-minute story of who the heck you are and, you know, and I don’t know, like, give us the one-minute story of Dan Held.
Dan Held’s Background [01:42]
Dan Held: Yeah, the elevator pitch. Yeah, so I from Texas originally, I grew up in Dallas, 25 years in Dallas. I studied finance in undergrad, stumbled and bumbled my way into tech. I didn’t know what I was doing when I first built my, my first software product in the space. It was successful. From there, learned how to formalize some of my skills around product management and marketing. Um, worked at a couple different early-stage crypto companies, so I was at some of the first crypto companies I worked at, like blockchain.com. Um, I’ve had two exits in the crypto space, so I’ve sold two of my products. Uh, and then I’ve also worked at Uber, where I was on Rider Growth led by Andrew Chen, so I was one of his directs and the growth marketing team. So, I’ve had big company, classic, uh, tech experience, but also a lot of kind of that startup hustle in early-stage crypto, which, early-stage crypto was kind of Wild West, um, which I guess fits my, my Texas attitude. So,
Bitcoin Origins and Satoshi [02:33]
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And Sam, I don’t know if you know this. Sam, do you know when uh Satoshi signed the first block? He put a, he put a message in there. Do you know, do you have you ever heard what this is?
Sam Parr: No, but I, I love that guy’s stories. I mean, I, the, the myth or if it’s the real, I don’t know what the truth is, but I love the story behind it.
Shaan Puri: And Dan, I don’t know if you know it off the top of your head, but, but do you, do you know what it is?
Dan Held: Yeah, so Satoshi was a really crazy character in terms of his expertise. I mean, he understood like human games, he understood game theory, encryption, all sorts of different other topics and wove this all together to build Bitcoin. Bitcoin isn’t just software. It, it, it, it wraps itself around understanding human levers to press, like greed, of how the price cycles as the price goes up, people become more aware of it and buy in expectation of the price going higher. Um, so Satoshi, you know, really understood humans intimately and, and part of this that he wove into the first block was the Genesis block message. And it said, “UK Chancellor on the verge of second bailout for banks.” So that was the only message that Satoshi ever put into the Bitcoin blockchain. And so it’s a very clear signal that Bitcoin wasn’t here to disrupt a Visa or PayPal. Bitcoin is here to disrupt the existing financial system and central banking.
Crypto Business Ideas [04:55]
Sam Parr: And so there’s like a, the, the mission, the mission was sort of like, I don’t know, cleverly baked in, which I just, I just love. I’m, I’m like you, Sam, where I’m like, the more I learn about the origins, the more this shit seems like it’s out of a movie. Uh, it doesn’t seem like real life. It’s like, oh, this anonymous creator. It’s like, how is anything anonymous nowadays, right? Like, there’s, there’s like ways, you know, like the, the way they caught the Silk Road guy was like his, the way he was typing or whatever matched some review he left on a movie message board or so, you know, there’s always something like that. There’s always a breadcrumb trail. There’s always Is it actually, is it still anonymous? Uh, I mean, obviously no one’s come out. Could it have been the, the, the guy who had ALS and died? I mean, what, what, what do you, what do smart people who know about the talk about?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and neither do these books that I’m reading. And that’s what kind of, kind of shook my foundational, uh, trust and belief in the existing financial system. And that’s when Bitcoin came around. When I saw that, I was like, “This is a good new, uh, way to be rebuild the financial system without having to trust these institutions.”
Shaan Puri: And so tell, tell people the story. So you got into crypto, Bitcoin, uh, Bitcoin specifically. You’re, you’re a Bitcoin guy. I shouldn’t, I shouldn’t keep saying crypto too much. Um, Bitcoin back in, I think 2012 or so, Bitcoin was maybe 10 bucks back then. Um, what, you know, what caught your interest? How did you hear about it? What’s the origin story for you?
Dan Held: Yeah, so I got back in 2012. Uh, my buddy paid me back for a beer with something called a Cassacious coin. A Cassacious coin are those gold coins that you see in all those news articles where they talk about Bitcoin. They were, they were physical Bitcoins essentially. And that was a good time in, in that 2012 era, Bitcoin is so new and weird and, and different that that was like a good bridge from the physical fiat, like paper money world to the, to the digital Bitcoin world. Uh, from there, my background is in finance. I really dug the 21 million hard cap as a solution to bad central banking policies. Uh, I, I mean, I was in undergrad during the 2008 financial crisis studying finance, and I’m like, “My professors don’t know shit.” Neither do the people on TV, and