This episode of the My First Million podcast features a conversation between Sam Parr and guest Steph Smith, who discusses various “companies of one”—highly profitable businesses run by a single person. They explore specific examples like BuiltWith, Nomad List, and Bannerbear, analyzing how these founders leverage automation and niche markets to generate significant revenue with minimal overhead.

Topics: Companies of one, solopreneurship, business automation, SaaS, revenue models, niche markets, digital products, side hustles

Introduction to Companies of One [00:00]

Sam Parr: This is awesome. Ben texted me or like, slacked me while we were doing this and he goes, “Steph’s been uh, spitting fire for the last 50 minutes, so this is badass.” What’s going on? Um, what’s up?

Steph Smith: I’m good, how are you?

Sam Parr: I’m good. All right, you’re back. Sean is on a family vacation and you are the sub, and I think it’s a good sub. So you sent me this document that we’re going to, we’re going to go through a ton of stuff. There’s so much stuff on here. How uh, is this, are you, is this like a list that you’ve been keeping for months or is this just you made this just for this?

Steph Smith: This is part of a list I’ve been keeping for months. I uh, I keep this list in my Evernote that just every time I see a new idea, whether it’s from like a newsletter or something you guys talk about on My First Million that I want to respond to, I just have a running list. So this is probably like a quarter of that bigger list.

Sam Parr: What? This is 15 pages. How many words? Like just what we have here is like 10,000 words.

Steph Smith: We should share this. I mean, at least parts of it, because we’re not going to get through all of this.

Sam Parr: This is amazing. I, if I was you, I wouldn’t share this. I would charge people for it. This is good.

Steph Smith: I mean, there’s definitely things that I’m excluding from here. You know, you don’t share the ones that you actually want to build.

Billionaire Ambitions [01:22]

Sam Parr: You uh, so you told me one time that you want to become a billionaire.

Steph Smith: I think I want to. We’ll see if that actually happens.

Sam Parr: Well, I don’t, who cares if it happens or not, but you said that’s what you wanted. Do you um, what are you going to do to become that?

Steph Smith: I mean, I feel like if I ever become a billionaire, we’re going to talk hopefully about Tyler Perry later. It has to come from building something on my own. I need to have equity in something. Like you don’t become a billionaire from working for a company and buying ETFs.

Sam Parr: Well, there’s a few examples, but the likelihood of becoming a billionaire is slim to none. The likelihood become of becoming a billionaire by being an early employee somewhere is much slimmer of that subset, but it’s possible. It’s definitely possible. Um, should we talk about these companies of one, which I feel like are kind of anti, not anti-billionaire, but a different approach to building?

Companies of One [02:13]

Sam Parr: Yes, and I actually don’t think they’re anti-billionaire. I think you can become a billionaire this way. But just so people know, so this is Steph Smith. Steph, you work at The Hustle. You basically helped me start Trends and you ran it for a while, and you still kind of run it, but you also do like a bunch of other different projects. And you have this Gumroad book called “Doing Content Right,” is that right?

Steph Smith: Yep.

Sam Parr: And it made like 150 G’s in the first year or something like that, right?

Steph Smith: Yep, exactly.

Sam Parr: And you are the type, so we, we aren’t like really partners anymore, but I felt like when we, when you ran Trends, I viewed it a little bit like a partnership. So I worked with you pretty closely for a while. Now, now that, now we’re just friends, but uh, is that out, is that all accurate? What am I missing?

Steph Smith: I think so. Yeah, I uh, I build stuff on the side for fun, taught myself to code a couple years ago, and now I also have a podcast. So if people like what they hear here, um, it’s called “The Shit You Don’t Learn in School.” That’s my little plug.

Sam Parr: And you are very, you and I are similar in that there’s like, it’s kind of like Sean, like there’s like this, this like overlap of things that are very, very similar between us, but there’s things that are very different in that what you’re different about is that you sweat the details uh, like crazy and you’re pretty technical in the sense of like, I really think it’s just you’re just smarter than me. Like you can just figure things out. Like you can just, you can just figure certain things out. So your research is actually typically more like in-depth and technical than my research, and I like that.

Steph Smith: Thanks. I mean, I don’t know if I actually sweat the details. If anyone knows me closely, like if you were to ask Cal, he’d be like, “No, she’s like a mess.” So, I appreciate that I come off that way.

Analyzing “Companies of One” [03:51]

Sam Parr: So let’s talk about companies of one. So you’re, you have a list of like 10 or seven companies that are run by one person that are shockingly big. Let’s go through some of them and uh, talk about them.

Steph Smith: Yeah, so I think you called out two before, so I’m going to just call out those two quickly. You called out BuiltWith before, which is this site that basically can tell what a site is built with. Is it built with WordPress or Squarespace or what plugins is it, is the site using? And that one, at the time when you found it, was I think doing around 14 million. And then you’ve also covered Nomad List and Remote OK by Pieter Levels. And those two, I think together are doing around a million a year. And those two, I think are both completely solo founders. I know Pieter certainly is. Um, but there are a couple others. So have you heard of Ugmonk?

Sam Parr: Well, hold on. So BuiltWith, so people know, BuiltWith is like maybe one of the most impressive ones here, but not the, but one of. BuiltWith is like, it’s like a, I think they have a plugin as well, but it’s a website. You go to builtwith.com, you enter in the hustle.co. Let’s say you want to, you, you see something on our website that you like and you want to copy and you’re like, “How’d they build that? What plugins do they use? What whatever.” You use BuiltWith. And they make money because uh, they like, what do they do? I think they like sell people’s data or something.

Steph Smith: I’m not sure actually. Let me look this up because I know they get a crazy amount of traffic. Look, they’ve got plans on their site. So they’ve got a basic plan, don’t know what you get with it, but it’s $295 per month.

Sam Parr: Oh, I know what you get. You get basically, I believe you sign up and it tells you uh, people’s, so it, it crawls all these websites and it tells you what type of features they have on their website and what type of plugins. And I think you pay money and it’ll say, “We have the emails or contact information of all types of people who use blank plugin,” and you sell a plugin that is complimentary to that. Therefore, pay money and you can now target them and advertise against them or or things like that.

Steph Smith: Yeah, they charge, so their basic plan is $3,000 a year, their pro is 5,000, their team is 10,000. There’s a cool little trick they have on their pricing page. If you go to it and you hover over, they have like technologies, keywords, and they have these little GIFs that they’re actually like showing what you would get with the product. I’ve never actually seen that before, so that’s a cute little hack.

Sam Parr: And it’s built by basically one guy in Australia. Um, all right, so what are some of the other companies?

Steph Smith: Okay, so I was going to call out Ugmonk. So this one’s not as big. I actually don’t know exactly um, how much they’re making, but it’s a really simple e-commerce store. They started just selling really nice t-shirts, which sounds like, okay, like there’s enough t-shirt stores out there, um, but this guy, Jeff Sheldon, he focused on just really high-quality t-shirts. And then now he’s moved into almost like productivity stuff. If you, are you in the dock?

Sam Parr: I’m looking at Ugmonk. So when I go to Ugmonk, I see like a pen holder and I see um, like a, a to-do list, like a, it’s like cute, well-designed like pen holders, which doesn’t sound neat, but it honestly, it looks pretty sick.

Steph Smith: Yeah, it looks surprisingly sick. If you go to, let me, if you click in the dock where it says “look at this,” if you click that, that is his setup and he, he’s like one of those builders who I think has built a little Twitter following as well, and he just has this beautiful desk setup, which is like the perfect ad. And I, I can’t say, Oh, I’m seeing this. It looks awesome.

Steph Smith: I never thought I’d want to go and buy like a $100 to-do list, but I, I think I’m going to buy one.

Sam Parr: Yeah, I, it’s just like cute, easy to use, like mid-century modern stuff. Yeah, I’m on board. How much revenue does he do?

Steph Smith: I’m not sure, but I’m pretty sure he does several million a year. He gets over 200,000 page views a month, um, and I, he’s been going at this for several years. So I know he makes enough to have left his full-time job several years ago and he’s grown a lot since then. So I’d probably say a couple mil.

Sam Parr: Wow, that’s crazy. All right, that’s a, that’s a good find. It’s just one guy, he’s the only employee?

Steph Smith: I think so. I mean, he’s, he, he probably has some staff now that he’s been growing, but I, I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have a big team.

Sam Parr: All right, what’s next?

Steph Smith: All right, Card is actually one guy. He might have contractors, but Card, C-A-R-R-D. I’ve built sites with Card. People probably recognize Card, or they’ve almost certainly been on a site built by Card. Um, and it’s built by this guy, AJ, and it’s doing $1 million a year AR. I think he actually just raised money now, so I think he’s kind of going for Did he really just raise money? I would love to invest in this.

Steph Smith: Yeah, he raised money earlier this year. He was like big in the Indie Hacker community and then I think he posted on Indie Hackers this year like, “Look, I’m, I’m going to raise money, I’m going to, you know, really go for it.” But he, it’s kind of crazy. 2.5 million sites have been built on Card. And yeah, I, he hit, I think he said like a million AR.

Sam Parr: So it’s a free platform for building simply, uh, for building simple, fully responsive one-page websites that can do anything. Um, I actually think, so there, there was this company called, um, you remember About.me?

Steph Smith: No, what is that?

Sam Parr: About.me. So go to about.me. Uh, that’s the URL. Um, you don’t remember that? You’re, I’m just a little bit older than you, which, which is like, then that few years probably makes a difference. Because about.me, when I was just getting started, was considered like the preeminent builder in this space. And they made, it, it was a one-page website where you can explain stuff about you. And it was started by this guy named Tony Conrad, I believe his name is, and he’s this cool-looking dude who uh, is also an investor now, and he sold it after only two years to AOL for like $40 million and it was bootstrapped. You see about.me, you see how it’s like basically the same thing?

Steph Smith: Yeah, it reminds me of, you’ve heard of Unsplash, right?

Sam Parr: I love Unsplash.

Steph Smith: So, or sorry, I’m not thinking of Unsplash, I’m talking about Unfold. Unfold is this app that basically for Instagrammers, it adds different, like it allows you to kind of piece together pictures for your Instagram story, but they also started these like one-pagers, um, where basically because all these Instagrammers, they’re like, “Oh, I need my link in bio.” Link in bio is also a site like that, but Unfold, um, was sold to Squarespace, I think like last year or something. I don’t know for how much though.

Sam Parr: Man, I think that these one-page website builders are actually really cool. So there’s this other business I almost invested in. I think it’s called mediakits.com or .co. I believe it’s just called Media Kit. And all they did was built a really slick website builder where you could create your media kit, kit, and send it to people. So, and uh, whether you’re the Hustle or you’re just an Instagram person, you just had this like, uh, thehustle.co/mediakit or like, you know, um, stephsmith.com/mediakit, and it was that your media kit was on there. And that sounds like not that important, but it’s kind of like Doxen. So Doxen, if you don’t know what Doxen is, Doxen is basically all it is is PowerPoint in the cloud, but email gated. So you have to enter your email and then you get all types of information. So it, you use it when you are creating a pitch deck and you want to send it to investors, so you know who has it and uh, and who views it and how long they’ve viewed it. And it’s basically that. Um, so anyway, Card is pretty badass. That actually might be one of the highest potential businesses you have here, I think.

Steph Smith: Yeah, and I mean, he actually runs Card as a subscription business, so that’s $1 million AR and I think it’s probably way past that today. I think you’re going to like the next one though. Go to uh, this next episode.net. I think it’s actually next-episode.net. It’s the, it’s such an old site. I think the guy’s been running it for 15 years. Um, and if you just open it up, you’ll, you’ll get a sense about the UI hasn’t caught up to where we are today, but it’s amazing because this guy’s been running it for 15 years. Guess how much traffic this thing gets?

Sam Parr: I’m looking at it on SimilarWeb. This is crazy. So what is this called? So next-episode.net. What is this?

Steph Smith: Yeah. It’s a site where basically, like there’s no way I would think that a site like this would still exist, but people use it, um, that basically helps you track your TV shows and it’s a little bit of a community. So I, I think, I’ve never used it, but you know, people watch The Bachelor, they hang out on this site and they find other people who watch The Bachelor and they talk about it. Um, but it’s kind of crazy how much traffic this site gets.

Sam Parr: This is awesome. And so here’s why I know this is a big business. So if you go to SimilarWeb and you look at their traffic, the estimated monthly traffic is 3.6 million uniques a month. That’s decent, that’s not like the best, but it’s like really good, particularly for one person. But if you go to traffic source, it says that 80% is coming from direct traffic, which basically means that there’s a lot of people that are just typing in this URL and going there on a consistent basis. And if you do that, you probably can have a huge business and it looks like they have got um, a premium, which is only $2 a month. But uh, how big is this?

Steph Smith: So I don’t know exactly how big it is, but I’m pretty sure he does several million a year. He gets over 200,000 page views a month, um, and I, he’s been going at this for several years. So I know he makes enough to have left his full-time job several years ago and he’s grown a lot since then. So I’d probably say a couple mil.

Sam Parr: Wow, that’s crazy. All right, that’s a, that’s a good find. It’s just one guy, he’s the only employee?

Steph Smith: I think so. I mean, he’s, he, he probably has some staff now that he’s been growing, but I, I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have a big team.

Sam Parr: All right, what’s next?

Steph Smith: All right, Card is actually one guy. He might have contractors, but Card, C-A-R-R-D. I’ve built sites with Card. People probably recognize Card, or they’ve almost certainly been on a site built by Card. Um, and it’s built by this guy, AJ, and it’s doing $1 million a year AR. I think he actually just raised money now, so I think he’s kind of going for Did he really just raise money? I would love to invest in this.

Steph Smith: Yeah, he raised money earlier this year. He was like big in the Indie Hacker community and then I think he posted on Indie Hackers this year like, “Look, I’m, I’m going to raise money, I’m going to, you know, really go for it.” But he, it’s kind of crazy. 2.5 million sites have been built on Card. And yeah, I, he hit, I think he said like a million AR.

Sam Parr: So it’s a free platform for building simply, uh, for building simple, fully responsive one-page websites that can do anything. Um, I actually think, so there, there was this company called, um, you remember About.me?

Steph Smith: No, what is that?

Sam Parr: About.me. So go to about.me. Uh, that’s the URL. Um, you don’t remember that? You’re, I’m just a little bit older than you, which, which is like, then that few years probably makes a difference. Because about.me, when I was just getting started, was considered like the preeminent builder in this space. And they made, it, it was a one-page website where you can explain stuff about you. And it was started by this guy named Tony Conrad, I believe his name is, and he’s this cool-looking dude who uh, is also an investor now, and he sold it after only two years to AOL for like $40 million and it was bootstrapped. You see about.me, you see how it’s like basically the same thing?

Steph Smith: Yeah, it reminds me of, you’ve heard of Unsplash, right?

Sam Parr: I love Unsplash.

Steph Smith: So, or sorry, I’m not thinking of Unsplash, I’m talking about Unfold. Unfold is this app that basically for Instagrammers, it adds different, like it allows you to kind of piece together pictures for your Instagram story, but they also started these like one-pagers, um, where basically because all these Instagrammers, they’re like, “Oh, I need my link in bio.” Link in bio is also a site like that, but Unfold, um, was sold to Squarespace, I think like last year or something. I don’t know for how much though.

Sam Parr: Man, I think that these one-page website builders are actually really cool. So there’s this other business I almost invested in. I think it’s called mediakits.com or .co. I believe it’s just called Media Kit. And all they did was built a really slick website builder where you could create your media kit, kit, and send it to people. So, and uh, whether you’re the Hustle or you’re just an Instagram person, you just had this like, uh, thehustle.co/mediakit or like, you know, um, stephsmith.com/mediakit, and it was that your media kit was on there. And that sounds like not that important, but it’s kind of like Doxen. So Doxen, if you don’t know what Doxen is, Doxen is basically all it is is PowerPoint in the cloud, but email gated. So you have to enter your email and then you get all types of information. So it, you use it when you are creating a pitch deck and you want to send it to investors, so you know who has it and uh, and who views it and how long they’ve viewed it. And it’s basically that. Um, so anyway, Card is pretty badass. That actually might be one of the highest potential businesses you have here, I think.

Steph Smith: Yeah, and I mean, he actually runs Card as a subscription business, so that’s $1 million AR and I think it’s probably way past that today. I think you’re going to like the next one though. Go to uh, this next episode.net. I think it’s actually next-episode.net. It’s the, it’s such an old site. I think the guy’s been running it for 15 years. Um, and if you just open it up, you’ll, you’ll get a sense about the UI hasn’t caught up to where we are today, but it’s amazing because this guy’s been running it for 15 years. Guess how much traffic this thing gets?

Sam Parr: I’m looking at it on SimilarWeb. This is crazy. So what is this called? So next-episode.net. What is this?

Steph Smith: Yeah. It’s a site where basically, like there’s no way I would think that a site like this would still exist, but people use it, um, that basically helps you track your TV shows and it’s a little bit of a community. So I, I think, I’ve never used it, but you know, people watch The Bachelor, they hang out on this site and they find other people who watch The Bachelor and they talk about it. Um, but it’s kind of crazy how much traffic this site gets.

Sam Parr: This is awesome. And so here’s why I know this is a big business. So if you go to SimilarWeb and you look at their traffic, the estimated monthly traffic is 3.6 million uniques a month. That’s decent, that’s not like the best, but it’s like really good, particularly for one person. But if you go to traffic source, it says that 80% is coming from direct traffic, which basically means that there’s a lot of people that are just typing in this URL and going there on a consistent basis. And if you do that, you probably can have a huge business and it looks like they have got um, a premium, which is only $2 a month. But uh, how big is this?

Steph Smith: So I don’t know exactly how big it is, but I’m pretty sure he does several million a year. He gets over 200,000 page views a month, um, and I, he’s been going at this for several years. So I know he makes enough to have left his full-time job several years ago and he’s grown a lot since then. So I’d probably say a couple mil.

Sam Parr: Wow, that’s crazy. All right, that’s a, that’s a good find. It’s just one guy, he’s the only employee?

Steph Smith: I think so. I mean, he’s, he, he probably has some staff now that he’s been growing, but I, I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have a big team.

Sam Parr: All right, what’s next?

Steph Smith: All right, Card is actually one guy. He might have contractors, but Card, C-A-R-R-D. I’ve built sites with Card. People probably recognize Card, or they’ve almost certainly been on a site built by Card. Um, and it’s built by this guy, AJ, and it’s doing $1 million a year AR. I think he actually just raised money now, so I think he’s kind of going for Did he really just raise money? I would love to invest in this.

Steph Smith: Yeah, he raised money earlier this year. He was like big in the Indie Hacker community and then I think he posted on Indie Hackers this year like, “Look, I’m, I’m going to raise money, I’m going to, you know, really go for it.” But he, it’s kind of crazy. 2.5 million sites have been built on Card. And yeah, I, he hit, I think he said like a million AR.

Sam Parr: So it’s a free platform for building simply, uh, for building simple, fully responsive one-page websites that can do anything. Um, I actually think, so there, there was this company called, um, you remember About.me?

Steph Smith: No, what is that?

Sam Parr: About.me. So go to about.me. Uh, that’s the URL. Um, you don’t remember that? You’re, I’m just a little bit older than you, which, which is like, then that few years probably makes a difference. Because about.me, when I was just getting started, was considered like the preeminent builder in this space. And they made, it, it was a one-page website where you can explain stuff about you. And it was started by this guy named Tony Conrad, I believe his name is, and he’s this cool-looking dude who uh, is also an investor now, and he sold it after only two years to AOL for like $40 million and it was bootstrapped. You see about.me, you see how it’s like basically the same thing?

Steph Smith: Yeah, it reminds me of, you’ve heard of Unsplash, right?

Sam Parr: I love Unsplash.

Steph Smith: So, or sorry, I’m not thinking of Unsplash, I’m talking about Unfold. Unfold is this app that basically for Instagrammers, it adds different, like it allows you to kind of piece together pictures for your Instagram story, but they also started these like one-pagers, um, where basically because all these Instagrammers, they’re like, “Oh, I need my link in bio.” Link in bio is also a site like that, but Unfold, um, was sold to Squarespace, I think like last year or something. I don’t know for how much though.

Sam Parr: Man, I think that these one-page website builders are actually really cool. So there’s this other business I almost invested in. I think it’s called mediakits.com or .co. I believe it’s just called Media Kit. And all they did was built a really slick website builder where you could create your media kit, kit, and send it to people. So, and uh, whether you’re the Hustle or you’re just an Instagram person, you just had this like, uh, thehustle.co/mediakit or like, you know, um, stephsmith.com/mediakit, and it was that your media kit was on there. And that sounds like not that important, but it’s kind of like Doxen. So Doxen, if you don’t know what Doxen is, Doxen is basically all it is is PowerPoint in the cloud, but email gated. So you have to enter your email and then you get all types of information. So it, you use it when you are creating a pitch deck and you want to send it to investors, so you know who has it and uh, and who views it and how long they’ve viewed it. And it’s basically that. Um, so anyway, Card is pretty badass. That actually might be one of the highest potential businesses you have here, I think.

Steph Smith: Yeah, and I mean, he actually runs Card as a subscription business, so that’s $1 million AR and I think it’s probably way past that today. I think you’re going to like the next one though. Go to uh, this next episode.net. I think it’s actually next-episode.net. It’s the, it’s such an old site. I think the guy’s been running it for 15 years. Um, and if you just open it up, you’ll, you’ll get a sense about the UI hasn’t caught up to where we are today, but it’s amazing because this guy’s been running it for 15 years. Guess how much traffic this thing gets?

Sam Parr: I’m looking at it on SimilarWeb. This is crazy. So what is this called? So next-episode.net. What is this?

Steph Smith: Yeah. It’s a site where basically, like there’s no way I would think that a site like this would still exist, but people use it, um, that basically helps you track your TV shows and it’s a little bit of a community. So I, I think, I’ve never used it, but you know, people watch The Bachelor, they hang out on this site and they find other people who watch The Bachelor and they talk about it. Um, but it’s kind of crazy how much traffic this site gets.

Sam Parr: This is awesome. And so here’s why I know this is a big business. So if you go to SimilarWeb and you look at their traffic, the estimated monthly traffic is 3.6 million uniques a month. That’s decent, that’s not like the best, but it’s like really good, particularly for one person. But if you go to traffic source, it says that 80% is coming from direct traffic, which basically means that there’s a lot of people that are just typing in this URL and going there on a consistent basis. And if you do that, you probably can have a huge business and it looks like they have got um, a premium, which is only $2 a month. But uh, how big is this?

Steph Smith: So I don’t know exactly how big it is, but I’m pretty sure he does several million a year. He gets over 200,000 page views a month, um, and I, he’s been going at this for several years. So I know he makes enough to have left his full-time job several years ago and he’s grown a lot since then. So I’d probably say a couple mil.

Sam Parr: Wow, that’s crazy. All right, that’s a, that’s a good find. It’s just one guy, he’s the only employee?

Steph Smith: I think so. I mean, he’s, he, he probably has some staff now that he’s been growing, but I, I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have a big team.

Sam Parr: All right, what’s next?

Steph Smith: All right, Card is actually one guy. He might have contractors, but Card, C-A-R-R-D. I’ve built sites with Card. People probably recognize Card, or they’ve almost certainly been on a site built by Card. Um, and it’s built by this guy, AJ, and it’s doing $1 million a year AR. I think he actually just raised money now, so I think he’s kind of going for Did he really just raise money? I would love to invest in this.

Steph Smith: Yeah, he raised money earlier this year. He was like big in the Indie Hacker community and then I think he posted on Indie Hackers this year like, “Look, I’m, I’m going to raise money, I’m going to, you know, really go for it.” But he, it’s kind of crazy. 2.5 million sites have been built on Card. And yeah, I, he hit, I think he said like a million AR.

Sam Parr: So it’s a free platform for building simply, uh, for building simple, fully responsive one-page websites that can do anything. Um, I actually think, so there, there was this company called, um, you remember About.me?

Steph Smith: No, what is that?

Sam Parr: About.me. So go to about.me. Uh, that’s the URL. Um, you don’t remember that? You’re, I’m just a little bit older than you, which, which is like, then that few years probably makes a difference. Because about.me, when I was just getting started, was considered like the preeminent builder in this space. And they made, it, it was a one-page website where you can explain stuff about you. And it was started by this guy named Tony Conrad, I believe his name is, and he’s this cool-looking dude who uh, is also an investor now, and he sold it after only two years to AOL for like $40 million and it was bootstrapped. You see about.me, you see how it’s like basically the same thing?

Steph Smith: Yeah, it reminds me of, you’ve heard of Unsplash, right?

Sam Parr: I love Unsplash.

Steph Smith: So, or sorry, I’m not thinking of Unsplash, I’m talking about Unfold. Unfold is this app that basically for Instagrammers, it adds different, like it allows you to kind of piece together pictures for your Instagram story, but they also started these like one-pagers, um, where basically because all these Instagrammers, they’re like, “Oh, I need my link in bio.” Link in bio is also a site like that, but Unfold, um, was sold to Squarespace, I think like last year or something. I don’t know for how much though.

Sam Parr: Man, I think that these one-page website builders are actually really cool. So there’s this other business I almost invested in. I think it’s called mediakits.com or .co. I believe it’s just called Media Kit. And all they did was built a really slick website builder where you could create your media kit, kit, and send it to people. So, and uh, whether you’re the Hustle or you’re just an Instagram person, you just had this like, uh, thehustle.co/mediakit or like, you know, um, stephsmith.com/mediakit, and it was that your media kit was on there. And that sounds like not that important, but it’s kind of like Doxen. So Doxen, if you don’t know what Doxen is, Doxen is basically all it is is PowerPoint in the cloud, but email gated. So you have to enter your email and then you get all types of information. So it, you use it when you are creating a pitch deck and you want to send it to investors, so you know who has it and uh, and who views it and how long they’ve viewed it. And it’s basically that. Um, so anyway, Card is pretty badass. That actually might be one of the highest potential businesses you have here, I think.

Steph Smith: Yeah, and I mean, he actually runs Card as a subscription business, so that’s $1 million AR and I think it’s probably way past that today. I think you’re going to like the next one though. Go to uh, this next episode.net. I think it’s actually next-episode.net. It’s the, it’s such an old site. I think the guy’s been running it for 15 years. Um, and if you just open it up, you’ll, you’ll get a sense about the UI hasn’t caught up to where we are today, but it’s amazing because this guy’s been running it for 15 years. Guess how much traffic this thing gets?

Sam Parr: I’m looking at it on SimilarWeb. This is crazy. So what is this called? So next-episode.net. What is this?

Steph Smith: Yeah. It’s a site where basically, like there’s no way I would think that a site like this would still exist, but people use it, um, that basically helps you track your TV shows and it’s a little bit of a community. So I, I think, I’ve never used it, but you know, people watch The Bachelor, they hang out on this site and they find other people who watch The Bachelor and they talk about it. Um, but it’s kind of crazy how much traffic this site gets.

Sam Parr: This is awesome. And so here’s why I know this is a big business. So if you go to SimilarWeb and you look at their traffic, the estimated monthly traffic is 3.6 million uniques a month. That’s decent, that’s not like the best, but it’s like really good, particularly for one person. But if you go to traffic source, it says that 80% is coming from direct traffic, which basically means that there’s a lot of people that are just typing in this URL and going there on a consistent basis. And if you do that, you probably can have a huge business and it looks like they have got um, a premium, which is only $2 a month. But uh, how big is this?

Steph Smith: So I don’t know exactly how big it is, but I’m pretty sure he does several million a year. He gets over 200,000 page views a month, um, and I, he’s been going at this for several years. So I know he makes enough to have left his full-time job several years ago and he’s grown a lot since then. So I’d probably say a couple mil.

Sam Parr: Wow, that’s crazy. All right, that’s a, that’s a good find. It’s just one guy, he’s the only employee?

Steph Smith: I think so. I mean, he’s, he, he probably has some staff now that he’s been growing, but I, I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have a big team.

Sam Parr: All right, what’s next?

Steph Smith: All right, Card is actually one guy. He might have contractors, but Card, C-A-R-R-D. I’ve built sites with Card. People probably recognize Card, or they’ve almost certainly been on a site built by Card. Um, and it’s built by this guy, AJ, and it’s doing $1 million a year AR. I think he actually just raised money now, so I think he’s kind of going for Did he really just raise money? I would love to invest in this.

Steph Smith: Yeah, he raised money earlier this year. He was like big in the Indie Hacker community and then I think he posted on Indie Hackers this year like, “Look, I’m, I’m going to raise money, I’m going to, you know, really go for it.” But he, it’s kind of crazy. 2.5 million sites have been built on Card. And yeah, I, he hit, I think he said like a million AR.

Sam Parr: So it’s a free platform for building simply, uh, for building simple, fully responsive one-page websites that can do anything. Um, I actually think, so there, there was this company called, um, you remember About.me?

Steph Smith: No, what is that?

Sam Parr: About.me. So go to about.me. Uh, that’s the URL. Um, you don’t remember that? You’re, I’m just a little bit older than you, which, which is like, then that few years probably makes a difference. Because about.me, when I was just getting started, was considered like the preeminent builder in this space. And they made, it, it was a one-page website where you can explain stuff about you. And it was started by this guy named Tony Conrad, I believe his name is, and he’s this cool-looking dude who uh, is also an investor now, and he sold it after only two years to AOL for like $40 million and it was bootstrapped. You see about.me, you see how it’s like basically the same thing?

Steph Smith: Yeah, it reminds me of, you’ve heard of Unsplash, right?

Sam Parr: I love Unsplash.

Steph Smith: So, or sorry, I’m not thinking of Unsplash, I’m talking about Unfold. Unfold is this app that basically for Instagrammers, it adds different, like it allows you to kind of piece together pictures for your Instagram story, but they also started these like one-pagers, um, where basically because all these Instagrammers, they’re like, “Oh, I need my link in bio.” Link in bio is also a site like that, but Unfold, um, was sold to Squarespace, I think like last year or something. I don’t know for how much though.

Sam Parr: Man, I think that these one-page website builders are actually really cool. So there’s this other business I almost invested in. I think it’s called mediakits.com or .co. I believe it’s just called Media Kit. And all they did was built a really slick website builder where you could create your media kit, kit, and send it to people. So, and uh, whether you’re the Hustle or you’re just an Instagram person, you just had this like, uh, thehustle.co/mediakit or like, you know, um, stephsmith.com/mediakit, and it was that your media kit was on there. And that sounds like not that important, but it’s kind of like Doxen. So Doxen, if you don’t know what Doxen is, Doxen is basically all it is is PowerPoint in the cloud, but email gated. So you have to enter your email and then you get all types of information. So it, you use it when you are creating a pitch deck and you want to send it to investors, so you know who has it and uh, and who views it and how long they’ve viewed it. And it’s basically that. Um, so anyway, Card is pretty badass. That actually might be one of the highest potential businesses you have here, I think.

Steph Smith: Yeah, and I mean, he actually runs Card as a subscription business, so that’s $1 million AR and I think it’s probably way past that today. I think you’re going to like the next one though. Go to uh, this next episode.net. I think it’s actually next-episode.net. It’s the, it’s such an old site. I think the guy’s been running it for 15 years. Um, and if you just open it up, you’ll, you’ll get a sense about the UI hasn’t caught up to where we are today, but it’s amazing because this guy’s been running it for 15 years. Guess how much traffic this thing gets?

Sam Parr: I’m looking at it on SimilarWeb. This is crazy. So what is this called? So next-episode.net. What is this?

Steph Smith: Yeah. It’s a site where basically, like there’s no way I would think that a site like this would still exist, but people use it, um, that basically helps you track your TV shows and it’s a little bit of a community. So I, I think, I’ve never used it, but you know, people watch The Bachelor, they hang out on this site and they find other people who watch The Bachelor and they talk about it. Um, but it’s kind of crazy how much traffic this site gets.

Sam Parr: This is awesome. And so here’s why I know this is a big business. So if you go to SimilarWeb and you look at their traffic, the estimated monthly traffic is 3.6 million uniques a month. That’s decent, that’s not like the best, but it’s like really good, particularly for one person. But if you go to traffic source, it says that 80% is coming from direct traffic, which basically means that there’s a lot of people that are just typing in this URL and going there on a consistent basis. And if you do that, you probably can have a huge business and it looks like they have got um, a premium, which is only $2 a month. But uh, how big is this?

Steph Smith: So I don’t know exactly how big it is, but I’m pretty sure he does several million a year. He gets over 200,000 page views a month, um, and I, he’s been going at this for several years. So I know he makes enough to have left his full-time job several years ago and he’s grown a lot since then. So I’d probably say a couple mil.

Sam Parr: Wow, that’s crazy. All right, that’s a, that’s a good find. It’s just one guy, he’s the only employee?

Steph Smith: I think so. I mean, he’s, he, he probably has some staff now that he’s been growing, but I, I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have a big team.

Sam Parr: All right, what’s next?

Steph Smith: All right, Card is actually one guy. He might have contractors, but Card, C-A-R-R-D. I’ve built sites with Card. People probably recognize Card, or they’ve almost certainly been on a site built by Card. Um, and it’s built by this guy, AJ, and it’s doing $1 million a year AR. I think he actually just raised money now, so I think he’s kind of going for Did he really just raise money? I would love to invest in this.

Steph Smith: Yeah, he raised money earlier this year. He was like big in the Indie Hacker community and then I think he posted on Indie Hackers this year like, “Look, I’m, I’m going to raise money, I’m going to, you know, really go for it.” But he, it’s kind of crazy. 2.5 million sites have been built on Card. And yeah, I, he hit, I think he said like a million AR.

Sam Parr: So it’s a free platform for building simply, uh, for building simple, fully responsive one-page websites that can do anything. Um, I actually think, so there, there was this company called, um, you remember About.me?

Steph Smith: No, what is that?

Sam Parr: About.me. So go to about.me. Uh, that’s the URL. Um, you don’t remember that? You’re, I’m just a little bit older than you, which, which is like, then that few years probably makes a difference. Because about.me, when I was just getting started, was considered like the preeminent builder in this space. And they made, it, it was a one-page website where you can explain stuff about you. And it was started by this guy named Tony Conrad, I believe his name is, and he’s this cool-looking dude who uh, is also an investor now, and he sold it after only two years to AOL for like $40 million and it was bootstrapped. You see about.me, you see how it’s like basically the same thing?

Steph Smith: Yeah, it reminds me of, you’ve heard of Unsplash, right?

Sam Parr: I love Unsplash.

Steph Smith: So, or sorry, I’m not thinking of Unsplash, I’m talking about Unfold. Unfold is this app that basically for Instagrammers, it adds different, like it allows you to kind of piece together pictures for your Instagram story, but they also started these like one-pagers, um, where basically because all these Instagrammers, they’re like, “Oh, I need my link in bio.” Link in bio is also a site like that, but Unfold, um, was sold to Squarespace, I think like last year or something. I don’t know for how much though.

Sam Parr: Man, I think that these one-page website builders are actually really cool. So there’s this other business I almost invested in. I think it’s called mediakits.com or .co. I believe it’s just called Media Kit. And all they did was built a really slick website builder where you could create your media kit, kit, and send it to people. So, and uh, whether you’re the Hustle or you’re just an Instagram person, you just had this like, uh, thehustle.co/mediakit or like, you know, um, stephsmith.com/mediakit, and it was that your media kit was on there. And that sounds like not that important, but it’s kind of like Doxen. So Doxen, if you don’t know what Doxen is, Doxen is basically all it is is PowerPoint in the cloud, but email gated. So you have to enter your email and then you get all types of information. So it, you use it when you are creating a pitch deck and you want to send it to investors, so you know who has it and uh, and who views it and how long they’ve viewed it. And it’s basically that. Um, so anyway, Card is pretty badass. That actually might be one of the highest potential businesses you have here, I think.

Steph Smith: Yeah, and I mean, he actually runs Card as a subscription business, so that’s $1 million AR and I think it’s probably way past that today. I think you’re going to like the next one though. Go to uh, this next episode.net. I think it’s actually next-episode.net. It’s the, it’s such an old site. I think the guy’s been running it for 15 years. Um, and if you just open it up, you’ll, you’ll get a sense about the UI hasn’t caught up to where we are today, but it’s amazing because this guy’s been running it for 15 years. Guess how much traffic this thing gets?

Sam Parr: I’m looking at it on SimilarWeb. This is crazy. So what is this called? So next-episode.net. What is this?

Steph Smith: Yeah. It’s a site where basically, like there’s no way I would think that a site like this would still exist, but people use it, um, that basically helps you track your TV shows and it’s a little bit of a community. So I, I think, I’ve never used it, but you know, people watch The Bachelor, they hang out on this site and they find other people who watch The Bachelor and they talk about it. Um, but it’s kind of crazy how much traffic this site gets.

Sam Parr: This is awesome. And so here’s why I know this is a big business. So if you go to SimilarWeb and you look at their traffic, the estimated monthly traffic is 3.6 million uniques a month. That’s decent, that’s not like the best, but it’s like really good, particularly for one person. But if you go to traffic source, it says that 80% is coming from direct traffic, which basically means that there’s a lot of people that are just typing in this URL and going there on a consistent basis. And if you do that, you probably can have a huge business and it looks like they have got um, a premium, which is only $2 a month. But uh, how big is this?

Steph Smith: So I don’t know exactly how big it is, but I’m pretty sure he does several million a year. He gets over 200,000 page views a month, um, and I, he’s been going at this for several years. So I know he makes enough to have left his full-time job several years ago and he’s grown a lot since then. So I’d probably say a couple mil.

Sam Parr: Wow, that’s crazy. All right, that’s a, that’s a good find. It’s just one guy, he’s the only employee?

Steph Smith: I think so. I mean, he’s, he, he probably has some staff now that he’s been growing, but I, I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have a big team.

Sam Parr: All right, what’s next?

Steph Smith: All right, Card is actually one guy. He might have contractors, but Card, C-A-R-R-D. I’ve built sites with Card. People probably recognize Card, or they’ve almost certainly been on a site built by Card. Um, and it’s built by this guy, AJ, and it’s doing $1 million a year AR. I think he actually just raised money now, so I think he’s kind of going for Did he really just raise money? I would love to invest in this.

Steph Smith: Yeah, he raised money earlier this year. He was like big in the Indie Hacker community and then I think he posted on Indie Hackers this year like, “Look, I’m, I’m going to raise money, I’m going to, you know, really go for it.” But he, it’s kind of crazy. 2.5 million sites have been built on Card. And yeah, I, he hit, I think he said like a million AR.

Sam Parr: So it’s a free platform for building simply, uh, for building simple, fully responsive one-page websites that can do anything. Um, I actually think, so there, there was this company called, um, you remember About.me?

Steph Smith: No, what is that?

Sam Parr: About.me. So go to about.me. Uh, that’s the URL. Um, you don’t remember that? You’re, I’m just a little bit older than you, which, which is like, then that few years probably makes a difference. Because about.me, when I was just getting started, was considered like the preeminent builder in this space. And they made, it, it was a one-page website where you can explain stuff about you. And it was started by this guy named Tony Conrad, I believe his name is, and he’s this cool-looking dude who uh, is also an investor now, and he sold it after only two years to AOL for like $40 million and it was bootstrapped. You see about.me, you see how it’s like basically the same thing?

Steph Smith: Yeah, it reminds me of, you’ve heard of Unsplash, right?

Sam Parr: I love Unsplash.

Steph Smith: So, or sorry, I’m not thinking of Unsplash, I’m talking about Unfold. Unfold is this app that basically for Instagrammers, it adds different, like it allows you to kind of piece together pictures for your Instagram story, but they also started these like one-pagers, um, where basically because all these Instagrammers, they’re like, “Oh, I need my link in bio.” Link in bio is also a site like that, but Unfold, um, was sold to Squarespace, I think like last year or something. I don’t know for how much though.

Sam Parr: Man, I think that these one-page website builders are actually really cool. So there’s this other business I almost invested in. I think it’s called mediakits.com or .co. I believe it’s just called Media Kit. And all they did was built a really slick website builder where you could create your media kit, kit, and send it to people. So, and uh, whether you’re the Hustle or you’re just an Instagram person, you just had this like, uh, thehustle.co/mediakit or like, you know, um, stephsmith.com/mediakit, and it was that your media kit was on there. And that sounds like not that important, but it’s kind of like Doxen. So Doxen, if you don’t know what Doxen is, Doxen is basically all it is is PowerPoint in the cloud, but email gated. So you have to enter your email and then you get all types of information. So it, you use it when you are creating a pitch deck and you want to send it to investors, so you know who has it and uh, and who views it and how long they’ve viewed it. And it’s basically that. Um, so anyway, Card is pretty badass. That actually might be one of the highest potential businesses you have here, I think.

Steph Smith: Yeah, and I mean, he actually runs Card as a subscription business, so that’s $1 million AR and I think it’s probably way past that today. I think you’re going to like the next one though. Go to uh, this next episode.net. I think it’s actually next-episode.net. It’s the, it’s such an old site. I think the guy’s been running it for 15 years. Um, and if you just open it up, you’ll, you’ll get a sense about the UI hasn’t caught up to where we are today, but it’s amazing because this guy’s been running it for 15 years. Guess how much traffic this thing gets?

Sam Parr: I’m looking at it on SimilarWeb. This is crazy. So what is this called? So next-episode.net. What is this?

Steph Smith: Yeah. It’s a site where basically, like there’s no way I would think that a site like this would still exist, but people use it, um, that basically helps you track your TV shows and it’s a little bit of a community. So I, I think, I’ve never used it, but you know, people watch The Bachelor, they hang out on this site and they find other people who watch The Bachelor and they talk about it. Um, but it’s kind of crazy how much traffic this site gets.

Sam Parr: This is awesome. And so here’s why I know this is a big business. So if you go to SimilarWeb and you look at their traffic, the estimated monthly traffic is 3.6 million uniques a month. That’s decent, that’s not like the best, but it’s like really good, particularly for one person. But if you go to traffic source, it says that 80% is coming from direct traffic, which basically means that there’s a lot of people that are just typing in this URL and going there on a consistent basis. And if you do that, you probably can have a huge business and it looks like they have got um, a premium, which is only $2 a month. But uh, how big is this?

Steph Smith: So I don’t know exactly how big it is, but I’m pretty sure he does several million a year. He gets over 200,000 page views a month, um, and I, he’s been going at this for several years. So I know he makes enough to have left his full-time job several years ago and he’s grown a lot since then. So I’d probably say a couple mil.

Sam Parr: Wow, that’s crazy. All right, that’s a, that’s a good find. It’s just one guy, he’s the only employee?

Steph Smith: I think so. I mean, he’s, he, he probably has some staff now that he’s been growing, but I, I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have a big team.

Sam Parr: All right, what’s next?

Steph Smith: All right, Card is actually one guy. He might have contractors, but Card, C-A-R-R-D. I’ve built sites with Card. People probably recognize Card, or they’ve almost certainly been on a site built by Card. Um, and it’s built by this guy, AJ, and it’s doing $1 million a year AR. I think he actually just raised money now, so I think he’s kind of going for Did he really just raise money? I would love to invest in this.

Steph Smith: Yeah, he raised money earlier this year. He was like big in the Indie Hacker community and then I think he posted on Indie Hackers this year like, “Look, I’m, I’m going to raise money, I’m going to, you know, really go for it.” But he, it’s kind of crazy. 2.5 million sites have been built on Card. And yeah, I, he hit, I think he said like a million AR.

Sam Parr: So it’s a free platform for building simply, uh, for building simple, fully responsive one-page websites that can do anything. Um, I actually think, so there, there was this company called, um, you remember About.me?

Steph Smith: No, what is that?

Sam Parr: About.me. So go to about.me. Uh, that’s the URL. Um, you don’t remember that? You’re, I’m just a little bit older than you, which, which is like, then that few years probably makes a difference. Because about.me, when I was just getting started, was considered like the preeminent builder in this space. And they made, it, it was a one-page website where you can explain stuff about you. And it was started by this guy named Tony Conrad, I believe his name is, and he’s this cool-looking dude who uh, is also an investor now, and he sold it after only two years to AOL for like $40 million and it was bootstrapped. You see about.me, you see how it’s like basically the same thing?

Steph Smith: Yeah, it reminds me of, you’ve heard of Unsplash, right?

Sam Parr: I love Unsplash.

Steph Smith: So, or sorry, I’m not thinking of Unsplash, I’m talking about Unfold. Unfold is this app that basically for Instagrammers, it adds different, like it allows you to kind of piece together pictures for your Instagram story, but they also started these like one-pagers, um, where basically because all these Instagrammers, they’re like, “Oh, I need my link in bio.” Link in bio is also a site like that, but Unfold, um, was sold to Squarespace, I think like last year or something. I don’t know for how much though.

Sam Parr: Man, I think that these one-page website builders are actually really cool. So there’s this other business I almost invested in. I think it’s called mediakits.com or .co. I believe it’s just called Media Kit. And all they did was built a really slick website builder where you could create your media kit, kit, and send it to people. So, and uh, whether you’re the Hustle or you’re just an Instagram person, you just had this like, uh, thehustle.co/mediakit or like, you know, um, stephsmith.com/mediakit, and it was that your media kit was on there. And that sounds like not that important, but it’s kind of like Doxen. So Doxen, if you don’t know what Doxen is, Doxen is basically all it is is PowerPoint in the cloud, but email gated. So you have to enter your email and then you get all types of information. So it, you use it when you are creating a pitch deck and you want to send it to investors, so you know who has it and uh, and who views it and how long they’ve viewed it. And it’s basically that. Um, so anyway, Card is pretty badass. That actually might be one of the highest potential businesses you have here, I think.

Steph Smith: Yeah, and I mean, he actually runs Card as a subscription business, so that’s $1 million AR and I think it’s probably way past that today. I think you’re going to like the next one though. Go to uh, this next episode.net. I think it’s actually next-episode.net. It’s the, it’s such an old site. I think the guy’s been running it for 15 years. Um, and if you just open it up, you’ll, you’ll get a sense about the UI hasn’t caught up to where we are today, but it’s amazing because this guy’s been running it for 15 years. Guess how much traffic this thing gets?

Sam Parr: I’m looking at it on SimilarWeb. This is crazy. So what is this called? So next-episode.net. What is this?

Steph Smith: Yeah. It’s a site where basically, like there’s no way I would think that a site like this would still exist, but people use it, um, that basically helps you track your TV shows and it’s a little bit of a community. So I, I think, I’ve never used it, but you know, people watch The Bachelor, they hang out on this site and they find other people who watch The Bachelor and they talk about it. Um, but it’s kind of crazy how much traffic this site gets.

Sam Parr: This is awesome. And so here’s why I know this is a big business. So if you go to SimilarWeb and you look at their traffic, the estimated monthly traffic is 3.6 million uniques a month. That’s decent, that’s not like the best, but it’s like really good, particularly for one person. But if you go to traffic source, it says that 80% is coming from direct traffic, which basically means that there’s a lot of people that are just typing in this URL and going there on a consistent basis. And if you do that, you probably can have a huge business and it looks like they have got um, a premium, which is only $2 a month. But uh, how big is this?

Steph Smith: So I don’t know exactly how big it is, but I’m pretty sure he does several million a year. He gets over 200,000 page views a month, um, and I, he’s been going at this for several years. So I know he makes enough to have left his full-time job several years ago and he’s grown a lot since then. So I’d probably say a couple mil.

Sam Parr: Wow, that’s crazy. All right, that’s a, that’s a good find. It’s just one guy, he’s the only employee?

Steph Smith: I think so. I mean, he’s, he, he probably has some staff now that he’s been growing, but I, I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have a big team.

Sam Parr: All right, what’s next?

Steph Smith: All right, Card is actually one guy. He might have contractors, but Card, C-A-R-R-D. I’ve built sites with Card. People probably recognize Card, or they’ve almost certainly been on a site built by Card. Um, and it’s built by this guy, AJ, and it’s doing $1 million a year AR. I think he actually just raised money now, so I think he’s kind of going for Did he really just raise money? I would love to invest in this.

Steph Smith: Yeah, he raised money earlier this year. He was like big in the Indie Hacker community and then I think he posted on Indie Hackers this year like, “Look, I’m, I’m going to raise money, I’m going to, you know, really go for it.” But he, it’s kind of crazy. 2.5 million sites have been built on Card. And yeah, I, he hit, I think he said like a million AR.

Sam Parr: So it’s a free platform for building simply, uh, for building simple, fully responsive one-page websites that can do anything. Um, I actually think, so there, there was this company called, um, you remember About.me?

Steph Smith: No, what is that?

Sam Parr: About.me. So go to about.me. Uh, that’s the URL. Um, you don’t remember that? You’re, I’m just a little bit older than you, which, which is like, then that few years probably makes a difference. Because about.me, when I was just getting started, was considered like the preeminent builder in this space. And they made, it, it was a one-page website where you can explain stuff about you. And it was started by this guy named Tony Conrad, I believe his name is, and he’s this cool-looking dude who uh, is also an investor now, and he sold it after only two years to AOL for like $40 million and it was bootstrapped. You see about.me, you see how it’s like basically the same thing?

Steph Smith: Yeah, it reminds me of, you’ve heard of Unsplash, right?

Sam Parr: I love Unsplash.

Steph Smith: So, or sorry, I’m not thinking of Unsplash, I’m talking about Unfold. Unfold is this app that basically for Instagrammers, it adds different, like it allows you to kind of piece together pictures for your Instagram story, but they also started these like one-pagers, um, where basically because all these Instagrammers, they’re like, “Oh, I need my link in bio.” Link in bio is also a site like that, but Unfold, um, was sold to Squarespace, I think like last year or something. I don’t know for how much though.

Sam Parr: Man, I think that these one-page website builders are actually really cool. So there’s this other business I almost invested in. I think it’s called mediakits.com or .co. I believe it’s just called Media Kit. And all they did was built a really slick website builder where you could create your media kit, kit, and send it to people. So, and uh, whether you’re the Hustle or you’re just an Instagram person, you just had this like, uh, thehustle.co/mediakit or like, you know, um, stephsmith.com/mediakit, and it was that your media kit was on there. And that sounds like not that important, but it’s kind of like Doxen. So Doxen, if you don’t know what Doxen is, Doxen is basically all it is is PowerPoint in the cloud, but email gated. So you have to enter your email and then you get all types of information. So it, you use it when you are creating a pitch deck and you want to send it to investors, so you know who has it and uh, and who views it and how long they’ve viewed it. And it’s basically that. Um, so anyway, Card is pretty badass. That actually might be one of the highest potential businesses you have here, I think.

Steph Smith: Yeah, and I mean, he actually runs Card as a subscription business, so that’s $1 million AR and I think it’s probably way past that today. I think you’re going to like the next one though. Go to uh, this next episode.net. I think it’s actually next-episode.net. It’s the, it’s such an old site. I think the guy’s been running it for 15 years. Um, and if you just open it up, you’ll, you’ll get a sense about the UI hasn’t caught up to where we are today, but it’s amazing because this guy’s been running it for 15 years. Guess how much traffic this thing gets?

Sam Parr: I’m looking at it on SimilarWeb. This is crazy. So what is this called? So next-episode.net. What is this?

Steph Smith: Yeah. It’s a site where basically, like there’s no way I would think that a site like this would still exist, but people use it, um, that basically helps you track your TV shows and it’s a little bit of a community. So I, I think, I’ve never used it, but you know, people watch The Bachelor, they hang out on this site and they find other people who watch The Bachelor and they talk about it. Um, but it’s kind of crazy how much traffic this site gets.

Sam Parr: This is awesome. And so here’s why I know this is a big business. So if you go to SimilarWeb and you look at their traffic, the estimated monthly traffic is 3.6 million uniques a month. That’s decent, that’s not like the best, but it’s like really good, particularly for one person. But if you go to traffic source, it says that 80% is coming from direct traffic, which basically means that there’s a lot of people that are just typing in this URL and going there on a consistent basis. And if you do that, you probably can have a huge business and it looks like they have got um, a premium, which is only $2 a month. But uh, how big is this?

Steph Smith: So I don’t know exactly how big it is, but I’m pretty sure he does several million a year. He gets over 200,000 page views a month, um, and I, he’s been going at this for several years. So I know he makes enough to have left his full-time job several years ago and he’s grown a lot since then. So I’d probably say a couple mil.

Sam Parr: Wow, that’s crazy. All right, that’s a, that’s a good find. It’s just one guy, he’s the only employee?

Steph Smith: I think so. I mean, he’s, he, he probably has some staff now that he’s been growing, but I, I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have a big team.

Sam Parr: All right, what’s next?

Steph Smith: All right, Card is actually one guy. He might have contractors, but Card, C-A-R-R-D. I’ve built sites with Card. People probably recognize Card, or they’ve almost certainly been on a site built by Card. Um, and it’s built by this guy, AJ, and it’s doing $1 million a year AR. I think he actually just raised money now, so I think he’s kind of going for Did he really just raise money? I would love to invest in this.

Steph Smith: Yeah, he raised money earlier this year. He was like big in the Indie Hacker community and then I think he posted on Indie Hackers this year like, “Look, I’m, I’m going to raise money, I’m going to, you know, really go for it.” But he, it’s kind of crazy. 2.5 million sites have been built on Card. And yeah, I, he hit, I think he said like a million AR.

Sam Parr: So it’s a free platform for building simply, uh, for building simple, fully responsive one-page websites that can do anything. Um, I actually think, so there, there was this company called, um, you remember About.me?

Steph Smith: No, what is that?

Sam Parr: About.me. So go to about.me. Uh, that’s the URL. Um, you don’t remember that? You’re, I’m just a little bit older than you, which, which is like, then that few years probably makes a difference. Because about.me, when I was just getting started, was considered like the preeminent builder in this space. And they made, it, it was a one-page website where you can explain stuff about you. And it was started by this guy named Tony Conrad, I believe his name is, and he’s this cool-looking dude who uh, is also an investor now, and he sold it after only two years to AOL for like $40 million and it was bootstrapped. You see about.me, you see how it’s like basically the same thing?

Steph Smith: Yeah, it reminds me of, you’ve heard of Unsplash, right?

Sam Parr: I love Unsplash.

Steph Smith: So, or sorry, I’m not thinking of Unsplash, I’m talking about Unfold. Unfold is this app that basically for Instagrammers, it adds different, like it allows you to kind of piece together pictures for your Instagram story, but they also started these like one-pagers, um, where basically because all these Instagrammers, they’re like, “Oh, I need my link in bio.” Link in bio is also a site like that, but Unfold, um, was sold to Squarespace, I think like last year or something. I don’t know for how much though.

Sam Parr: Man, I think that these one-page website builders are actually really cool. So there’s this other business I almost invested in. I think it’s called mediakits.com or .co. I believe it’s just called Media Kit. And all they did was built a really slick website builder where you could create your media kit, kit, and send it to people. So, and uh, whether you’re the Hustle or you’re just an Instagram person, you just had this like, uh, thehustle.co/mediakit or like, you know, um, stephsmith.com/mediakit, and it was that your media kit was on there. And that sounds like not that important, but it’s kind of like Doxen. So Doxen, if you don’t know what Doxen is, Doxen is basically all it is is PowerPoint in the cloud, but email gated. So you have to enter your email and then you get all types of information. So it, you use it when you are creating a pitch deck and you want to send it to investors, so you know who has it and uh, and who views it and how long they’ve viewed it. And it’s basically that. Um, so anyway, Card is pretty badass. That actually might be one of the highest potential businesses you have here, I think.

Steph Smith: Yeah, and I mean, he actually runs Card as a subscription business, so that’s $1 million AR and I think it’s probably way past that today. I think you’re going to like the next one though. Go to uh, this next episode.net. I think it’s actually next-episode.net. It’s the, it’s such an old site. I think the guy’s been running it for 15 years. Um, and if you just open it up, you’ll, you’ll get a sense about the UI hasn’t caught up to where we are today, but it’s amazing because this guy’s been running it for 15 years. Guess how much traffic this thing gets?

Sam Parr: I’m looking at it on SimilarWeb. This is crazy. So what is this called? So next-episode.net. What is this?

Steph Smith: Yeah. It’s a site where basically, like there’s no way I would think that a site like this would still exist, but people use it, um, that basically helps you track your TV shows and it’s a little bit of a community. So I, I think, I’ve never used it, but you know, people watch The Bachelor, they hang out on this site and they find other people who watch The Bachelor and they talk about it. Um, but it’s kind of crazy how much traffic this site gets.

Sam Parr: This is awesome. And so here’s why I know this is a big business. So if you go to SimilarWeb and you look at their traffic, the estimated monthly traffic is 3.6 million uniques a month. That’s decent, that’s not like the best, but it’s like really good, particularly for one person. But if you go to traffic source, it says that 80% is coming from direct traffic, which basically means that there’s a lot of people that are just typing in this URL and going there on a consistent basis. And if you do that, you probably can have a huge business and it looks like they have got um, a premium, which is only $2 a month. But uh, how big is this?

Steph Smith: So I don’t know exactly how big it is, but I’m pretty sure he does several million a year. He gets over 200,000 page views a month, um, and I, he’s been going at this for several years. So I know he makes enough to have left his full-time job several years ago and he’s grown a lot since then. So I’d probably say a couple mil.

Sam Parr: Wow, that’s crazy. All right, that’s a, that’s a good find. It’s just one guy, he’s the only employee?

Steph Smith: I think so. I mean, he’s, he, he probably has some staff now that he’s been growing, but I, I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have a big team.

Sam Parr: All right, what’s next?

Steph Smith: All right, Card is actually one guy. He might have contractors, but Card, C-A-R-R-D. I’ve built sites with Card. People probably recognize Card, or they’ve almost certainly been on a site built by Card. Um, and it’s built by this guy, AJ, and it’s doing $1 million a year AR. I think he actually just raised money now, so I think he’s kind of going for Did he really just raise money? I would love to invest in this.

Steph Smith: Yeah, he raised money earlier this year. He was like big in the Indie Hacker community and then I think he posted on Indie Hackers this year like, “Look, I’m, I’m going to raise money, I’m going to, you know, really go for it.” But he, it’s kind of crazy. 2.5 million sites have been built on Card. And yeah, I, he hit, I think he said like a million AR.

Sam Parr: So it’s a free platform for building simply, uh, for building simple, fully responsive one-page websites that can do anything. Um, I actually think, so there, there was this company called, um, you remember About.me?

Steph Smith: No, what is that?

Sam Parr: About.me. So go to about.me. Uh, that’s the URL. Um, you don’t remember that? You’re, I’m just a little bit older than you, which, which is like, then that few years probably makes a difference. Because about.me, when I was just getting started, was considered like the preeminent builder in this space. And they made, it, it was a one-page website where you can explain stuff about you. And it was started by this guy named Tony Conrad, I believe his name is, and he’s this cool-looking dude who uh, is also an investor now, and he sold it after only two years to AOL for like $40 million and it was bootstrapped. You see about.me, you see how it’s like basically the same thing?

Steph Smith: Yeah, it reminds me of, you’ve heard of Unsplash, right?

Sam Parr: I love Unsplash.

Steph Smith: So, or sorry, I’m not thinking of Unsplash, I’m talking about Unfold. Unfold is this app that basically for Instagrammers, it adds different, like it allows you to kind of piece together pictures for your Instagram story, but they also started these like one-pagers, um, where basically because all these Instagrammers, they’re like, “Oh, I need my link in bio.” Link in bio is also a site like that, but Unfold, um, was sold to Squarespace, I think like last year or something. I don’t know for how much though.

Sam Parr: Man, I think that these one-page website builders are actually really cool. So there’s this other business I almost invested in. I think it’s called mediakits.com or .co. I believe it’s just called Media Kit. And all they did was built a really slick website builder where you could create your media kit, kit, and send it to people. So, and uh, whether you’re the Hustle or you’re just an Instagram person, you just had this like, uh, thehustle.co/mediakit or like, you know, um, stephsmith.com/mediakit, and it was that your media kit was on there. And that sounds like not that important, but it’s kind of like Doxen. So Doxen, if you don’t know what Doxen is, Doxen is basically all it is is PowerPoint in the cloud, but email gated. So you have to enter your email and then you get all types of information. So it, you use it when you are creating a pitch deck and you want to send it to investors, so you know who has it and uh, and who views it and how long they’ve viewed it. And it’s basically that. Um, so anyway, Card is pretty badass. That actually might be one of the highest potential businesses you have here, I think.

Steph Smith: Yeah, and I mean, he actually runs Card as a subscription business, so that’s $1 million AR and I think it’s probably way past that today. I think you’re going to like the next one though. Go to uh, this next episode.net. I think it’s actually next-episode.net. It’s the, it’s such an old site. I think the guy’s been running it for 15 years. Um, and if you just open it up, you’ll, you’ll get a sense about the UI hasn’t caught up to where we are today, but it’s amazing because this guy’s been running it for 15 years. Guess how much traffic this thing gets?

Sam Parr: I’m looking at it on SimilarWeb. This is crazy. So what is this called? So next-episode.net. What is this?

Steph Smith: Yeah. It’s a site where basically, like there’s no way I would think that a site like this would still exist, but people use it, um, that basically helps you track your TV shows and it’s a little bit of a community. So I, I think, I’ve never used it, but you know, people watch The Bachelor, they hang out on this site and they find other people who watch The Bachelor and they talk about it. Um, but it’s kind of crazy how much traffic this site gets.

Sam Parr: This is awesome. And so here’s why I know this is a big business. So if you go to SimilarWeb and you look at their traffic, the estimated monthly traffic is 3.6 million uniques a month. That’s decent, that’s not like the best, but it’s like really good, particularly for one person. But if you go to traffic source, it says that 80% is coming from direct traffic, which basically means that there’s a lot of people that are just typing in this URL and going there on a consistent basis. And if you do that, you probably can have a huge business and it looks like they have got um, a premium, which is only $2 a month. But uh, how big is this?

Steph Smith: So I don’t know exactly how big it is, but I’m pretty sure he does several million a year. He gets over 200,000 page views a month, um, and I, he’s been going at this for several years. So I know he makes enough to have left his full-time job several years ago and he’s grown a lot since then. So I’d probably say a couple mil.

Sam Parr: Wow, that’s crazy. All right, that’s a, that’s a good find. It’s just one guy, he’s the only employee?

Steph Smith: I think so. I mean, he’s, he, he probably has some staff now that he’s been growing, but I, I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have a big team.

Sam Parr: All right, what’s next?

Steph Smith: All right, Card is actually one guy. He might have contractors, but Card, C-A-R-R-D. I’ve built sites with Card. People probably recognize Card, or they’ve almost certainly been on a site built by Card. Um, and it’s built by this guy, AJ, and it’s doing $1 million a year AR. I think he actually just raised money now, so I think he’s kind of going for Did he really just raise money? I would love to invest in this.

Steph Smith: Yeah, he raised money earlier this year. He was like big in the Indie Hacker community and then I think he posted on Indie Hackers this year like, “Look, I’m, I’m going to raise money, I’m going to, you know, really go for it.” But he, it’s kind of crazy. 2.5 million sites have been built on Card. And yeah, I, he hit, I think he said like a million AR.

Sam Parr: So it’s a free platform for building simply, uh, for building simple, fully responsive one-page websites that can do anything. Um, I actually think, so there, there was this company called, um, you remember About.me?

Steph Smith: No, what is that?

Sam Parr: About.me. So go to about.me. Uh, that’s the URL. Um, you don’t remember that? You’re, I’m just a little bit older than you, which, which is like, then that few years probably makes a difference. Because about.me, when I was just getting started, was considered like the preeminent builder in this space. And they made, it, it was a one-page website where you can explain stuff about you. And it was started by this guy named Tony Conrad, I believe his name is, and he’s this cool-looking dude who uh, is also an investor now, and he sold it after only two years to AOL for like $40 million and it was bootstrapped. You see about.me, you see how it’s like basically the same thing?

Steph Smith: Yeah, it reminds me of, you’ve heard of Unsplash, right?

Sam Parr: I love Unsplash.

Steph Smith: So, or sorry, I’m not thinking of Unsplash, I’m talking about Unfold. Unfold is this app that basically for Instagrammers, it adds different, like it allows you to kind of piece together pictures for your Instagram story, but they also started these like one-pagers, um, where basically because all these Instagrammers, they’re like, “Oh, I need my link in bio.” Link in bio is also a site like that, but Unfold, um, was sold to Squarespace, I think like last year or something. I don’t know for how much though.

Sam Parr: Man, I think that these one-page website builders are actually really cool. So there’s this other business I almost invested in. I think it’s called mediakits.com or .co. I believe it’s just called Media Kit. And all they did was built a really slick website builder where you could create your media kit, kit, and send it to people. So, and uh, whether you’re the Hustle or you’re just an Instagram person, you just had this like, uh, thehustle.co/mediakit or like, you know, um, stephsmith.com/mediakit, and it was that your media kit was on there. And that sounds like not that important, but it’s kind of like Doxen. So Doxen, if you don’t know what Doxen is, Doxen is basically all it is is PowerPoint in the cloud, but email gated. So you have to enter your email and then you get all types of information. So it, you use it when you are creating a pitch deck and you want to send it to investors, so you know who has it and uh, and who views it and how long they’ve viewed it. And it’s basically that. Um, so anyway, Card is pretty badass. That actually might be one of the highest potential businesses you have here, I think.

Steph Smith: Yeah, and I mean, he actually runs Card as a subscription business, so that’s $1 million AR and I think it’s probably way past that today. I think you’re going to like the next one though. Go to uh, this next episode.net. I think it’s actually next-episode.net. It’s the, it’s such an old site. I think the guy’s been running it for 15 years. Um, and if you just open it up, you’ll, you’ll get a sense about the UI hasn’t caught up to where we are today, but it’s amazing because this guy’s been running it for 15 years. Guess how much traffic this thing gets?

Sam Parr: I’m looking at it on SimilarWeb. This is crazy. So what is this called? So next-episode.net. What is this?

Steph Smith: Yeah. It’s a site where basically, like there’s no way I would think that a site like this would still exist, but people use it, um, that basically helps you track your TV shows and it’s a little bit of a community. So I, I think, I’ve never used it, but you know, people watch The Bachelor, they hang out on this site and they find other people who watch The Bachelor and they talk about it. Um, but it’s kind of crazy how much traffic this site gets.

Sam Parr: This is awesome. And so here’s why I know this is a big business. So if you go to SimilarWeb and you look at their traffic, the estimated monthly traffic is 3.6 million uniques a month. That’s decent, that’s not like the best, but it’s like really good, particularly for one person. But if you go to traffic source, it says that 80% is coming from direct traffic, which basically means that there’s a lot of people that are just typing in this URL and going there on a consistent basis. And if you do that, you probably can have a huge business and it looks like they have got um, a premium, which is only $2 a month. But uh, how big is this?

Steph Smith: So I don’t know exactly how big it is, but I’m pretty sure he does several million a year. He gets over 200,000 page views a month, um, and I, he’s been going at this for several years. So I know he makes enough to have left his full-time job several years ago and he’s grown a lot since then. So I’d probably say a couple mil.

Sam Parr: Wow, that’s crazy. All right, that’s a, that’s a good find. It’s just one guy, he’s the only employee?

Steph Smith: I think so. I mean, he’s, he, he probably has some staff now that he’s been growing, but I, I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have a big team.

Sam Parr: All right, what’s next?

Steph Smith: All right, Card is actually one guy. He might have contractors, but Card, C-A-R-R-D. I’ve built sites with Card. People probably recognize Card, or they’ve almost certainly been on a site built by Card. Um, and it’s built by this guy, AJ, and it’s doing $1 million a year AR. I think he actually just raised money now, so I think he’s kind of going for Did he really just raise money? I would love to invest in this.

Steph Smith: Yeah, he raised money earlier this year. He was like big in the Indie Hacker community and then I think he posted on Indie Hackers this year like, “Look, I’m, I’m going to raise money, I’m going to, you know, really go for it.” But he, it’s kind of crazy. 2.5 million sites have been built on Card. And yeah, I, he hit, I think he said like a million AR.

Sam Parr: So it’s a free platform for building simply, uh, for building simple, fully responsive one-page websites that can do anything. Um, I actually think, so there, there was this company called, um, you remember About.me?

Steph Smith: No, what is that?

Sam Parr: About.me. So go to about.me. Uh, that’s the URL. Um, you don’t remember that? You’re, I’m just a little bit older than you, which, which is like, then that few years probably makes a difference. Because about.me, when I was just getting started, was considered like the preeminent builder in this space. And they made, it, it was a one-page website where you can explain stuff about you. And it was started by this guy named Tony Conrad, I believe his name is, and he’s this cool-looking dude who uh, is also an investor now, and he sold it after only two years to AOL for like $40 million and it was bootstrapped. You see about.me, you see how it’s like basically the same thing?

Steph Smith: Yeah, it reminds me of, you’ve heard of Unsplash, right?

Sam Parr: I love Unsplash.

Steph Smith: So, or sorry, I’m not thinking of Unsplash, I’m talking about Unfold. Unfold is this app that basically for Instagrammers, it adds different, like it allows you to kind of piece together pictures for your Instagram story, but they also started these like one-pagers, um, where basically because all these Instagrammers, they’re like, “Oh, I need my link in bio.” Link in bio is also a site like that, but Unfold, um, was sold to Squarespace, I think like last year or something. I don’t know for how much though.

Sam Parr: Man, I think that these one-page website builders are actually really cool. So there’s this other business I almost invested in. I think it’s called mediakits.com or .co. I believe it’s just called Media Kit. And all they did was built a really slick website builder where you could create your media kit, kit, and send it to people. So, and uh, whether you’re the Hustle or you’re just an Instagram person, you just had this like, uh, thehustle.co/mediakit or like, you know, um, stephsmith.com/mediakit, and it was that your media kit was on there. And that sounds like not that important, but it’s kind of like Doxen. So Doxen, if you don’t know what Doxen is, Doxen is basically all it is is PowerPoint in the cloud, but email gated. So you have to enter your email and then you get all types of information. So it, you use it when you are creating a pitch deck and you want to send it to investors, so you know who has it and uh, and who views it and how long they’ve viewed it. And it’s basically that. Um, so anyway, Card is pretty badass. That actually might be one of the highest potential businesses you have here, I think.

Steph Smith: Yeah, and I mean, he actually runs Card as a subscription business, so that’s $1 million AR and I think it’s probably way past that today. I think you’re going to like the next one though. Go to uh, this next episode.net. I think it’s actually next-episode.net. It’s the, it’s such an old site. I think the guy’s been running it for 15 years. Um, and if you just open it up, you’ll, you’ll get a sense about the UI hasn’t caught up to where we are today, but it’s amazing because this guy’s been running it for 15 years. Guess how much traffic this thing gets?

Sam Parr: I’m looking at it on SimilarWeb. This is crazy. So what is this called? So next-episode.net. What is this?

Steph Smith: Yeah. It’s a site where basically, like there’s no way I would think that a site like this would still exist, but people use it, um, that basically helps you track your TV shows and it’s a little bit of a community. So I, I think, I’ve never used it, but you know, people watch The Bachelor, they hang out on this site and they find other people who watch The Bachelor and they talk about it. Um, but it’s kind of crazy how much traffic this site gets.

Sam Parr: This is awesome. And so here’s why I know this is a big business. So if you go to SimilarWeb and you look at their traffic, the estimated monthly traffic is 3.6 million uniques a month. That’s decent, that’s not like the best, but it’s like really good, particularly for one person. But if you go to traffic source, it says that 80% is coming from direct traffic, which basically means that there’s a lot of people that are just typing in this URL and going there on a consistent basis. And if you do that, you probably can have a huge business and it looks like they have got um, a premium, which is only $2 a month. But uh, how big is this?

Steph Smith: So I don’t know exactly how big it is, but I’m pretty sure he does several million a year. He gets over 200,000 page views a month, um, and I, he’s been going at this for several years. So I know he makes enough to have left his full-time job several years ago and he’s grown a lot since then. So I’d probably say a couple mil.

Sam Parr: Wow, that’s crazy. All right, that’s a, that’s a good find. It’s just one guy, he’s the only employee?

Steph Smith: I think so. I mean, he’s, he, he probably has some staff now that he’s been growing, but I, I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have a big team.

Sam Parr: All right, what’s next?

Steph Smith: All right, Card is actually one guy. He might have contractors, but Card, C-A-R-R-D. I’ve built sites with Card. People probably recognize Card, or they’ve almost certainly been on a site built by Card. Um, and it’s built by this guy, AJ, and it’s doing $1 million a year AR. I think he actually just raised money now, so I think he’s kind of going for Did he really just raise money? I would love to invest in this.

Steph Smith: Yeah, he raised money earlier this year. He was like big in the Indie Hacker community and then I think he posted on Indie Hackers this year like, “Look, I’m, I’m going to raise money, I’m going to, you know, really go for it.” But he, it’s kind of crazy. 2.5 million sites have been built on Card. And yeah, I, he hit, I think he said like a million AR.

Sam Parr: So it’s a free platform for building simply, uh, for building simple, fully responsive one-page websites that can do anything. Um, I actually think, so there, there was this company called, um, you remember About.me?

Steph Smith: No, what is that?

Sam Parr: About.me. So go to about.me. Uh, that’s the URL. Um, you don’t remember that? You’re, I’m just a little bit older than you, which, which is like, then that few years probably makes a difference. Because about.me, when I was just getting started, was considered like the preeminent builder in this space. And they made, it, it was a one-page website where you can explain stuff about you. And it was started by this guy named Tony Conrad, I believe his name is, and he’s this cool-looking dude who uh, is also an investor now, and he sold it after only two years to AOL for like $40 million and it was bootstrapped. You see about.me, you see how it’s like basically the same thing?

Steph Smith: Yeah, it reminds me of, you’ve heard of Unsplash, right?

Sam Parr: I love Unsplash.

Steph Smith: So, or sorry, I’m not thinking of Unsplash, I’m talking about Unfold. Unfold is this app that basically for Instagrammers, it adds different, like it allows you to kind of piece together pictures for your Instagram story, but they also started these like one-pagers, um, where basically because all these Instagrammers, they’re like, “Oh, I need my link in bio.” Link in bio is also a site like that, but Unfold, um, was sold to Squarespace, I think like last year or something. I don’t know for how much though.

Sam Parr: Man, I think that these one-page website builders are actually really cool. So there’s this other business I almost invested in. I think it’s called mediakits.com or .co. I believe it’s just called Media Kit. And all they did was built a really slick website builder where you could create your media kit, kit, and send it to people. So, and uh, whether you’re the Hustle or you’re just an Instagram person, you just had this like, uh, thehustle.co/mediakit or like, you know, um, stephsmith.com/mediakit, and it was that your media kit was on there. And that sounds like not that important, but it’s kind of like Doxen. So Doxen, if you don’t know what Doxen is, Doxen is basically all it is is PowerPoint in the cloud, but email gated. So you have to enter your email and then you get all types of information. So it, you use it when you are creating a pitch deck and you want to send it to investors, so you know who has it and uh, and who views it and how long they’ve viewed it. And it’s basically that. Um, so anyway, Card is pretty badass. That actually might be one of the highest potential businesses you have here, I think.

Steph Smith: Yeah, and I mean, he actually runs Card as a subscription business, so that’s $1 million AR and I think it’s probably way past that today. I think you’re going to like the next one though. Go to uh, this next episode.net. I think it’s actually next-episode.net. It’s the, it’s such an old site. I think the guy’s been running it for 15 years. Um, and if you just open it up, you’ll, you’ll get a sense about the UI hasn’t caught up to where we are today, but it’s amazing because this guy’s been running it for 15 years. Guess how much traffic this thing gets?

Sam Parr: I’m looking at it on SimilarWeb. This is crazy. So what is this called? So next-episode.net. What is this?

Steph Smith: Yeah. It’s a site where basically, like there’s no way I would think that a site like this would still exist, but people use it, um, that basically helps you track your TV shows and it’s a little bit of a community. So I, I think, I’ve never used it, but you know, people watch The Bachelor, they hang out on this site and they find other people who watch The Bachelor and they talk about it. Um, but it’s kind of crazy how much traffic this site gets.

Sam Parr: This is awesome. And so here’s why I know this is a big business. So if you go to SimilarWeb and you look at their traffic, the estimated monthly traffic is 3.6 million uniques a month. That’s decent, that’s not like the best, but it’s like really good, particularly for one person. But if you go to traffic source, it says that 80% is coming from direct traffic, which basically means that there’s a lot of people that are just typing in this URL and going there on a consistent basis. And if you do that, you probably can have a huge business and it looks like they have got um, a premium, which is only $2 a month. But uh, how big is this?

Steph Smith: So I don’t know exactly how big it is, but I’m pretty sure he does several million a year. He gets over 200,000 page views a month, um, and I, he’s been going at this for several years. So I know he makes enough to have left his full-time job several years ago and he’s grown a lot since then. So I’d probably say a couple mil.

Sam Parr: Wow, that’s crazy. All right, that’s a, that’s a good find. It’s just one guy, he’s the only employee?

Steph Smith: I think so. I mean, he’s, he, he probably has some staff now that he’s been growing, but I, I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have a big team.

Sam Parr: All right, what’s next?

Steph Smith: All right, Card is actually one guy. He might have contractors, but Card, C-A-R-R-D. I’ve built sites with Card. People probably recognize Card, or they’ve almost certainly been on a site built by Card. Um, and it’s built by this guy, AJ, and it’s doing $1 million a year AR. I think he actually just raised money now, so I think he’s kind of going for Did he really just raise money? I would love to invest in this.

Steph Smith: Yeah, he raised money earlier this year. He was like big in the Indie Hacker community and then I think he posted on Indie Hackers this year like, “Look, I’m, I’m going to raise money, I’m going to, you know, really go for it.” But he, it’s kind of crazy. 2.5 million sites have been built on Card. And yeah, I, he hit, I think he said like a million AR.

Sam Parr: So it’s a free platform for building simply, uh, for building simple, fully responsive one-page websites that can do anything. Um, I actually think, so there, there was this company called, um, you remember About.me?

Steph Smith: No, what is that?

Sam Parr: About.me. So go to about.me. Uh, that’s the URL. Um, you don’t remember that? You’re, I’m just a little bit older than you, which, which is like, then that few years probably makes a difference. Because about.me, when I was just getting started, was considered like the preeminent builder in this space. And they made, it, it was a one-page website where you can explain stuff about you. And it was started by this guy named Tony Conrad, I believe his name is, and he’s this cool-looking dude who uh, is also an investor now, and he sold it after only two years to AOL for like $40 million and it was bootstrapped. You see about.me, you see how it’s like basically the same thing?

Steph Smith: Yeah, it reminds me of, you’ve heard of Unsplash, right?

Sam Parr: I love Unsplash.

Steph Smith: So, or sorry, I’m not thinking of Unsplash, I’m talking about Unfold. Unfold is this app that basically for Instagrammers, it adds different, like it allows you to kind of piece together pictures for your Instagram story, but they also started these like one-pagers, um, where basically because all these Instagrammers, they’re like, “Oh, I need my link in bio.” Link in bio is also a site like that, but Unfold, um, was sold to Squarespace, I think like last year or something. I don’t know for how much though.

Sam Parr: Man, I think that these one-page website builders are actually really cool. So there’s this other business I almost invested in. I think it’s called mediakits.com or .co. I believe it’s just called Media Kit. And all they did was built a really slick website builder where you could create your media kit, kit, and send it to people. So, and uh, whether you’re the Hustle or you’re just an Instagram person, you just had this like, uh, thehustle.co/mediakit or like, you know, um, stephsmith.com/mediakit, and it was that your media kit was on there. And that sounds like not that important, but it’s kind of like Doxen. So Doxen, if you don’t know what Doxen is, Doxen is basically all it is is PowerPoint in the cloud, but email gated. So you have to enter your email and then you get all types of information. So it, you use it when you are creating a pitch deck and you want to send it to investors, so you know who has it and uh, and who views it and how long they’ve viewed it. And it’s basically that. Um, so anyway, Card is pretty badass. That actually might be one of the highest potential businesses you have here, I think.

Steph Smith: Yeah, and I mean, he actually runs Card as a subscription business, so that’s $1 million AR and I think it’s probably way past that today. I think you’re going to like the next one though. Go to uh, this next episode.net. I think it’s actually next-episode.net. It’s the, it’s such an old site. I think the guy’s been running it for 15 years. Um, and if you just open it up, you’ll, you’ll get a sense about the UI hasn’t caught up to where we are today, but it’s amazing because this guy’s been running it for 15 years. Guess how much traffic this thing gets?

Sam Parr: I’m looking at it on SimilarWeb. This is crazy. So what is this called? So next-episode.net. What is this?

Steph Smith: Yeah. It’s a site where basically, like there’s no way I would think that a site like this would still exist, but people use it, um, that basically helps you track your TV shows and it’s a little bit of a community. So I, I think, I’ve never used it, but you know, people watch The Bachelor, they hang out on this site and they find other people who watch The Bachelor and they talk about it. Um, but it’s kind of crazy how much traffic this site gets.

Sam Parr: This is awesome. And so here’s why I know this is a big business. So if you go to SimilarWeb and you look at their traffic, the estimated monthly traffic is 3.6 million uniques a month. That’s decent, that’s not like the best, but it’s like really good, particularly for one person. But if you go to traffic source, it says that 80% is coming from direct traffic, which basically means that there’s a lot of people that are just typing in this URL and going there on a consistent basis. And if you do that, you probably can have a huge business and it looks like they have got um, a premium, which is only $2 a month. But uh, how big is this?

Steph Smith: So I don’t know exactly how big it is, but I’m pretty sure he does several million a year. He gets over 200,000 page views a month, um, and I, he’s been going at this for several years. So I know he makes enough to have left his full-time job several years ago and he’s grown a lot since then. So I’d probably say a couple mil.

Sam Parr: Wow, that’s crazy. All right, that’s a, that’s a good find. It’s just one guy, he’s the only employee?

Steph Smith: I think so. I mean, he’s, he, he probably has some staff now that he’s been growing, but I, I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have a big team.

Sam Parr: All right, what’s next?

Steph Smith: All right, Card is actually one guy. He might have contractors, but Card, C-A-R-R-D. I’ve built sites with Card. People probably recognize Card, or they’ve almost certainly been on a site built by Card. Um, and it’s built by this guy, AJ, and it’s doing $1 million a year AR. I think he actually just raised money now, so I think he’s kind of going for Did he really just raise money? I would love to invest in this.

Steph Smith: Yeah, he raised money earlier this year. He was like big in the Indie Hacker community and then I think he posted on Indie Hackers this year like, “Look, I’m, I’m going to raise money, I’m going to, you know, really go for it.” But he, it’s kind of crazy. 2.5 million sites have been built on Card. And yeah, I, he hit, I think he said like a million AR.

Sam Parr: So it’s a free platform for building simply, uh, for building simple, fully responsive one-page websites that can do anything. Um, I actually think, so there, there was this company called, um, you remember About.me?

Steph Smith: No, what is that?

Sam Parr: About.me. So go to about.me. Uh, that’s the URL. Um, you don’t remember that? You’re, I’m just a little bit older than you, which, which is like, then that few years probably makes a difference. Because about.me, when I was just getting started, was considered like the preeminent builder in this space. And they made, it, it was a one-page website where you can explain stuff about you. And it was started by this guy named Tony Conrad, I believe his name is, and he’s this cool-looking dude who uh, is also an investor now, and he sold it after only two years to AOL for like $40 million and it was bootstrapped. You see about.me, you see how it’s like basically the same thing?

Steph Smith: Yeah, it reminds me of, you’ve heard of Unsplash, right?

Sam Parr: I love Unsplash.

Steph Smith: So, or sorry, I’m not thinking of Unsplash, I’m talking about Unfold. Unfold is this app that basically for Instagrammers, it adds different, like it allows you to kind of piece together pictures for your Instagram story, but they also started these like one-pagers, um, where basically because all these Instagrammers, they’re like, “Oh, I need my link in bio.” Link in bio is also a site like that, but Unfold, um, was sold to Squarespace, I think like last year or something. I don’t know for how much though.

Sam Parr: Man, I think that these one-page website builders are actually really cool. So there’s this other business I almost invested in. I think it’s called mediakits.com or .co. I believe it’s just called Media Kit. And all they did was built a really slick website builder where you could create your media kit, kit, and send it to people. So, and uh, whether you’re the Hustle or you’re just an Instagram person, you just had this like, uh, thehustle.co/mediakit or like, you know, um, stephsmith.com/mediakit, and it was that your media kit was on there. And that sounds like not that important, but it’s kind of like Doxen. So Doxen, if you don’t know what Doxen is, Doxen is basically all it is is PowerPoint in the cloud, but email gated. So you have to enter your email and then you get all types of information. So it, you use it when you are creating a pitch deck and you want to send it to investors, so you know who has it and uh, and who views it and how long they’ve viewed it. And it’s basically that. Um, so anyway, Card is pretty badass. That actually might be one of the highest potential businesses you have here, I think.

Steph Smith: Yeah, and I mean, he actually runs Card as a subscription business, so that’s $1 million AR and I think it’s probably way past that today. I think you’re going to like the next one though. Go to uh, this next episode.net. I think it’s actually next-episode.net. It’s the, it’s such an old site. I think the guy’s been running it for 15 years. Um, and if you just open it up, you’ll, you’ll get a sense about the UI hasn’t caught up to where we are today, but it’s amazing because this guy’s been running it for 15 years. Guess how much traffic this thing gets?

Sam Parr: I’m looking at it on SimilarWeb. This is crazy. So what is this called? So next-episode.net. What is this?

Steph Smith: Yeah. It’s a site where basically, like there’s no way I would think that a site like this would still exist, but people use it, um, that basically helps you track your TV shows and it’s a little bit of a community. So I, I think, I’ve never used it, but you know, people watch The Bachelor, they hang out on this site and they find other people who watch The Bachelor and they talk about it. Um, but it’s kind of crazy how much traffic this site gets.

Sam Parr: This is awesome. And so here’s why I know this is a big business. So if you go to SimilarWeb and you look at their traffic, the estimated monthly traffic is 3.6 million uniques a month. That’s decent, that’s not like the best, but it’s like really good, particularly for one person. But if you go to traffic source, it says that 80% is coming from direct traffic, which basically means that there’s a lot of people that are just typing in this URL and going there on a consistent basis. And if you do that, you probably can have a huge business and it looks like they have got um, a premium, which is only $2 a month. But uh, how big is this?

Steph Smith: So I don’t know exactly how big it is, but I’m pretty sure he does several million a year. He gets over 200,000 page views a month, um, and I, he’s been going at this for several years. So I know he makes enough to have left his full-time job several years ago and he’s grown a lot since then. So I’d probably say a couple mil.

Sam Parr: Wow, that’s crazy. All right, that’s a, that’s a good find. It’s just one guy, he’s the only employee?

Steph Smith: I think so. I mean, he’s, he, he probably has some staff now that he’s been growing, but I, I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have a big team.

Sam Parr: All right, what’s next?

Steph Smith: All right, Card is actually one guy. He might have contractors, but Card, C-A-R-R-D. I’ve built sites with Card. People probably recognize Card, or they’ve almost certainly been on a site built by Card. Um, and it’s built by this guy, AJ, and it’s doing $1 million a year AR. I think he actually just raised money now, so I think he’s kind of going for Did he really just raise money? I would love to invest in this.

Steph Smith: Yeah, he raised money earlier this year. He was like big in the Indie Hacker community and then I think he posted on Indie Hackers this year like, “Look, I’m, I’m going to raise money, I’m going to, you know, really go for it.” But he, it’s kind of crazy. 2.5 million sites have been built on Card. And yeah, I, he hit, I think he said like a million AR.

Sam Parr: So it’s a free platform for building simply, uh, for building simple, fully responsive one-page websites that can do anything. Um, I actually think, so there, there was this company called, um, you remember About.me?

Steph Smith: No, what is that?

Sam Parr: About.me. So go to about.me. Uh, that’s the URL. Um, you don’t remember that? You’re, I’m just a little bit older than you, which, which is like, then that few years probably makes a difference. Because about.me, when I was just getting started, was considered like the preeminent builder in this space. And they made, it, it was a one-page website where you can explain stuff about you. And it was started by this guy named Tony Conrad, I believe his name is, and he’s this cool-looking dude who uh, is also an investor now, and he sold it after only two years to AOL for like $40 million and it was bootstrapped. You see about.me, you see how it’s like basically the same thing?

Steph Smith: Yeah, it reminds me of, you’ve heard of Unsplash, right?

Sam Parr: I love Unsplash.

Steph Smith: So, or sorry, I’m not thinking of Unsplash, I’m talking about Unfold. Unfold is this app that basically for Instagrammers, it adds different, like it allows you to kind of piece together pictures for your Instagram story, but they also started these like one-pagers, um, where basically because all these Instagrammers, they’re like, “Oh, I need my link in bio.” Link in bio is also a site like that, but Unfold, um, was sold to Squarespace, I think like last year or something. I don’t know for how much though.

Sam Parr: Man, I think that these one-page website builders are actually really cool. So there’s this other business I almost invested in. I think it’s called mediakits.com or .co. I believe it’s just called Media Kit. And all they did was built a really slick website builder where you could create your media kit, kit, and send it to people. So, and uh, whether you’re the Hustle or you’re just an Instagram person, you just had this like, uh, thehustle.co/mediakit or like, you know, um, stephsmith.com/mediakit, and it was that your media kit was on there. And that sounds like not that important, but it’s kind of like Doxen. So Doxen, if you don’t know what Doxen is, Doxen is basically all it is is PowerPoint in the cloud, but email gated. So you have to enter your email and then you get all types of information. So it, you use it when you are creating a pitch deck and you want to send it to investors, so you know who has it and uh, and who views it and how long they’ve viewed it. And it’s basically that. Um, so anyway, Card is pretty badass. That actually might be one of the highest potential businesses you have here, I think.

Steph Smith: Yeah, and I mean, he actually runs Card as a subscription business, so that’s $1 million AR and I think it’s probably way past that today. I think you’re going to like the next one though. Go to uh, this next episode.net. I think it’s actually next-episode.net. It’s the, it’s such an old site. I think the guy’s been running it for 15 years. Um, and if you just open it up, you’ll, you’ll get a sense about the UI hasn’t caught up to where we are today, but it’s amazing because this guy’s been running it for 15 years. Guess how much traffic this thing gets?

Sam Parr: I’m looking at it on SimilarWeb. This is crazy. So what is this called? So next-episode.net. What is this?

Steph Smith: Yeah. It’s a site where basically, like there’s no way I would think that a site like this would still exist, but people use it, um, that basically helps you track your TV shows and it’s a little bit of a community. So I, I think, I’ve never used it, but you know, people watch The Bachelor, they hang out on this site and they find other people who watch The Bachelor and they talk about it. Um, but it’s kind of crazy how much traffic this site gets.

Sam Parr: This is awesome. And so here’s why I know this is a big business. So if you go to SimilarWeb and you look at their traffic, the estimated monthly traffic is 3.6 million uniques a month. That’s decent, that’s not like the best, but it’s like really good, particularly for one person. But if you go to traffic source, it says that 80% is coming from direct traffic, which basically means that there’s a lot of people that are just typing in this URL and going there on a consistent basis. And if you do that, you probably can have a huge business and it looks like they have got um, a premium, which is only $2 a month. But uh, how big is this?

Steph Smith: So I don’t know exactly how big it is, but I’m pretty sure he does several million a year. He gets over 200,000 page views a month, um, and I, he’s been going at this for several years. So I know he makes enough to have left his full-time job several years ago and he’s grown a lot since then. So I’d probably say a couple mil.

Sam Parr: Wow, that’s crazy. All right, that’s a, that’s a good find. It’s just one guy, he’s the only employee?

Steph Smith: I think so. I mean, he’s, he, he probably has some staff now that he’s been growing, but I, I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have a big team.

Sam Parr: All right, what’s next?

Steph Smith: All right, Card is actually one guy. He might have contractors, but Card, C-A-R-R-D. I’ve built sites with Card. People probably recognize Card, or they’ve almost certainly been on a site built by Card. Um, and it’s built by this guy, AJ, and it’s doing $1 million a year AR. I think he actually just raised money now, so I think he’s kind of going for Did he really just raise money? I would love to invest in this.

Steph Smith: Yeah, he raised money earlier this year. He was like big in the Indie Hacker community and then I think he posted on Indie Hackers this year like, “Look, I’m, I’m going to raise money, I’m going to, you know, really go for it.” But he, it’s kind of crazy. 2.5 million sites have been built on Card. And yeah, I, he hit, I think he said like a million AR.

Sam Parr: So it’s a free platform for building simply, uh, for building simple, fully responsive one-page websites that can do anything. Um, I actually think, so there, there was this company called, um, you remember About.me?

Steph Smith: No, what is that?

Sam Parr: About.me. So go to about.me. Uh, that’s the URL. Um, you don’t remember that? You’re, I’m just a little bit older than you, which, which is like, then that few years probably makes a difference. Because about.me, when I was just getting started, was considered like the preeminent builder in this space. And they made, it, it was a one-page website where you can explain stuff about you. And it was started by this guy named Tony Conrad, I believe his name is, and he’s this cool-looking dude who uh, is also an investor now, and he sold it after only two years to AOL for like $40 million and it was bootstrapped. You see about.me, you see how it’s like basically the same thing?

Steph Smith: Yeah, it reminds me of, you’ve heard of Unsplash, right?

Sam Parr: I love Unsplash.

Steph Smith: So, or sorry, I’m not thinking of Unsplash, I’m talking about Unfold. Unfold is this app that basically for Instagrammers, it adds different, like it allows you to kind of piece together pictures for your Instagram story, but they also started these like one-pagers, um, where basically because all these Instagrammers, they’re like, “Oh, I need my link in bio.” Link in bio is also a site like that, but Unfold, um, was sold to Squarespace, I think like last year or something. I don’t know for how much though.

Sam Parr: Man, I think that these one-page website builders are actually really cool. So there’s this other business I almost invested in. I think it’s called mediakits.com or .co. I believe it’s just called Media Kit. And all they did was built a really slick website builder where you could create your media kit, kit, and send it to people. So, and uh, whether you’re the Hustle or you’re just an Instagram person, you just had this like, uh, thehustle.co/mediakit or like, you know, um, stephsmith.com/mediakit, and it was that your media kit was on there. And that sounds like not that important, but it’s kind of like Doxen. So Doxen, if you don’t know what Doxen is, Doxen is basically all it is is PowerPoint in the cloud, but email gated. So you have to enter your email and then you get all types of information. So it, you use it when you are creating a pitch deck and you want to send it to investors, so you know who has it and uh, and who views it and how long they’ve viewed it. And it’s basically that. Um, so anyway, Card is pretty badass. That actually might be one of the highest potential businesses you have here, I think.

Steph Smith: Yeah, and I mean, he actually runs Card as a subscription business, so that’s $1 million AR and I think it’s probably way past that today. I think you’re going to like the next one though. Go to uh, this next episode.net. I think it’s actually next-episode.net. It’s the, it’s such an old site. I think the guy’s been running it for 15 years. Um, and if you just open it up, you’ll, you’ll get a sense about the UI hasn’t caught up to where we are today, but it’s amazing because this guy’s been running it for 15 years. Guess how much traffic this thing gets?

Sam Parr: I’m looking at it on SimilarWeb. This is crazy. So what is this called? So next-episode.net. What is this?

Steph Smith: Yeah. It’s a site where basically, like there’s no way I would think that a site like this would still exist, but people use it, um, that basically helps you track your TV shows and it’s a little bit of a community. So I, I think, I’ve never used it, but you know, people watch The Bachelor, they hang out on this site and they find other people who watch The Bachelor and they talk about it. Um, but it’s kind of crazy how much traffic this site gets.

Sam Parr: This is awesome. And so here’s why I know this is a big business. So if you go to SimilarWeb and you look at their traffic, the estimated monthly traffic is 3.6 million uniques a month. That’s decent, that’s not like the best, but it’s like really good, particularly for one person. But if you go to traffic source, it says that 80% is coming from direct traffic, which basically means that there’s a lot of people that are just typing in this URL and going there on a consistent basis. And if you do that, you probably can have a huge business and it looks like they have got um, a premium, which is only $2 a month. But uh, how big is this?

Steph Smith: So I don’t know exactly how big it is, but I’m pretty sure he does several million a year. He gets over 200,000 page views a month, um, and I, he’s been going at this for several years. So I know he makes enough to have left his full-time job several years ago and he’s grown a lot since then. So I’d probably say a couple mil.

Sam Parr: Wow, that’s crazy. All right, that’s a, that’s a good find. It’s just one guy, he’s the only employee?

Steph Smith: I think so. I mean, he’s, he, he probably has some staff now that he’s been growing, but I, I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have a big team.

Sam Parr: All right, what’s next?

Steph Smith: All right, Card is actually one guy. He might have contractors, but Card, C-A-R-R-D. I’ve built sites with Card. People probably recognize Card, or they’ve almost certainly been on a site built by Card. Um, and it’s built by this guy, AJ, and it’s doing $1 million a year AR. I think he actually just raised money now, so I think he’s kind of going for Did he really just raise money? I would love to invest in this.

Steph Smith: Yeah, he raised money earlier this year. He was like big in the Indie Hacker community and then I think he posted on Indie Hackers this year like, “Look, I’m, I’m going to raise money, I’m going to, you know, really go for it.” But he, it’s kind of crazy. 2.5 million sites have been built on Card. And yeah, I, he hit, I think he said like a million AR.

Sam Parr: So it’s a free platform for building simply, uh, for building simple, fully responsive one-page websites that can do anything. Um, I actually think, so there, there was this company called, um, you remember About.me?

Steph Smith: No, what is that?

Sam Parr: About.me. So go to about.me. Uh, that’s the URL. Um, you don’t remember that? You’re, I’m just a little bit older than you, which, which is like, then that few years probably makes a difference. Because about.me, when I was just getting started, was considered like the preeminent builder in this space. And they made, it, it was a one-page website where you can explain stuff about you. And it was started by this guy named Tony Conrad, I believe his name is, and he’s this cool-looking dude who uh, is also an investor now, and he sold it after only two years to AOL for like $40 million and it was bootstrapped. You see about.me, you see how it’s like basically the same thing?

Steph Smith: Yeah, it reminds me of, you’ve heard of Unsplash, right?

Sam Parr: I love Unsplash.

Steph Smith: So, or sorry, I’m not thinking of Unsplash, I’m talking about Unfold. Unfold is this app that basically for Instagrammers, it adds different, like it allows you to kind of piece together pictures for your Instagram story, but they also started these like one-pagers, um, where basically because all these Instagrammers, they’re like, “Oh, I need my link in bio.” Link in bio is also a site like that, but Unfold, um, was sold to Squarespace, I think like last year or something. I don’t know for how much though.

Sam Parr: Man, I think that these one-page website builders are actually really cool. So there’s this other business I almost invested in. I think it’s called mediakits.com or .co. I believe it’s just called Media Kit. And all they did was built a really slick website builder where you could create your media kit, kit, and send it to people. So, and uh, whether you’re the Hustle or you’re just an Instagram person, you just had this like, uh, thehustle.co/mediakit or like, you know, um, stephsmith.com/mediakit, and it was that your media kit was on there. And that sounds like not that important, but it’s kind of like Doxen. So Doxen, if you don’t know what Doxen is, Doxen is basically all it is is PowerPoint in the cloud, but email gated. So you have to enter your email and then you get all types of information. So it, you use it when you are creating a pitch deck and you want to send it to investors, so you know who has it and uh, and who views it and how long they’ve viewed it. And it’s basically that. Um, so anyway, Card is pretty badass. That actually might be one of the highest potential businesses you have here, I think.

Steph Smith: Yeah, and I mean, he actually runs Card as a subscription business, so that’s $1 million AR and I think it’s probably way past that today. I think you’re going to like the next one though. Go to uh, this next episode.net. I think it’s actually next-episode.net. It’s the, it’s such an old site. I think the guy’s been running it for 15 years. Um, and if you just open it up, you’ll, you’ll get a sense about the UI hasn’t caught up to where we are today, but it’s amazing because this guy’s been running it for 15 years. Guess how much traffic this thing gets?

Sam Parr: I’m looking at it on SimilarWeb. This is crazy. So what is this called? So next-episode.net. What is this?

Steph Smith: Yeah. It’s a site where basically, like there’s no way I would think that a site like this would still exist, but people use it, um, that basically helps you track your TV shows and it’s a little bit of a community. So I, I think, I’ve never used it, but you know, people watch The Bachelor, they hang out on this site and they find other people who watch The Bachelor and they talk about it. Um, but it’s kind of crazy how much traffic this site gets.

Sam Parr: This is awesome. And so here’s why I know this is a big business. So if you go to SimilarWeb and you look at their traffic, the estimated monthly traffic is 3.6 million uniques a month. That’s decent, that’s not like the best, but it’s like really good, particularly for one person. But if you go to traffic source, it says that 80% is coming from direct traffic, which basically means that there’s a lot of people that are just typing in this URL and going there on a consistent basis. And if you do that, you probably can have a huge business and it looks like they have got um, a premium, which is only $2 a month. But uh, how big is this?

Steph Smith: So I don’t know exactly how big it is, but I’m pretty sure he does several million a year. He gets over 200,000 page views a month, um, and I, he’s been going at this for several years. So I know he makes enough to have left his full-time job several years ago and he’s grown a lot since then. So I’d probably say a couple mil.

Sam Parr: Wow, that’s crazy. All right, that’s a, that’s a good find. It’s just one guy, he’s the only employee?

Steph Smith: I think so. I mean, he’s, he, he probably has some staff now that he’s been growing, but I, I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have a big team.

Sam Parr: All right, what’s next?

Steph Smith: All right, Card is actually one guy. He might have contractors, but Card, C-A-R-R-D. I’ve built sites with Card. People probably recognize Card, or they’ve almost certainly been on a site built by Card. Um, and it’s built by this guy, AJ, and it’s doing $1 million a year AR. I think he actually just raised money now, so I think he’s kind of going for Did he really just raise money? I would love to invest in this.

Steph Smith: Yeah, he raised money earlier this year. He was like big in the Indie Hacker community and then I think he posted on Indie Hackers this year like, “Look, I’m, I’m going to raise money, I’m going to, you know, really go for it.” But he, it’s kind of crazy. 2.5 million sites have been built on Card. And yeah, I, he hit, I think he said like a million AR.

Sam Parr: So it’s a free platform for building simply, uh, for building simple, fully responsive one-page websites that can do anything. Um, I actually think, so there, there was this company called, um, you remember About.me?

Steph Smith: No, what is that?

Sam Parr: About.me. So go to about.me. Uh, that’s the URL. Um, you don’t remember that? You’re, I’m just a little bit older than you, which, which is like, then that few years probably makes a difference. Because about.me, when I was just getting started, was considered like the preeminent builder in this space. And they made, it, it was a one-page website where you can explain stuff about you. And it was started by this guy named Tony Conrad, I believe his name is, and he’s this cool-looking dude who uh, is also an investor now, and he sold it after only two years to AOL for like $40 million and it was bootstrapped. You see about.me, you see how it’s like basically the same thing?

Steph Smith: Yeah, it reminds me of, you’ve heard of Unsplash, right?

Sam Parr: I love Unsplash.

Steph Smith: So, or sorry, I’m not thinking of Unsplash, I’m talking about Unfold. Unfold is this app that basically for Instagrammers, it adds different, like it allows you to kind of piece together pictures for your Instagram story, but they also started these like one-pagers, um, where basically because all these Instagrammers, they’re like, “Oh, I need my link in bio.” Link in bio is also a site like that, but Unfold, um, was sold to Squarespace, I think like last year or something. I don’t know for how much though.

Sam Parr: Man, I think that these one-page website builders are actually really cool. So there’s this other business I almost invested in. I think it’s called mediakits.com or .co. I believe it’s just called Media Kit. And all they did was built a really slick website builder where you could create your media kit, kit, and send it to people. So, and uh, whether you’re the Hustle or you’re just an Instagram person, you just had this like, uh, thehustle.co/mediakit or like, you know, um, stephsmith.com/mediakit, and it was that your media kit was on there. And that sounds like not that important, but it’s kind of like Doxen. So Doxen, if you don’t know what Doxen is, Doxen is basically all it is is PowerPoint in the cloud, but email gated. So you have to enter your email and then you get all types of information. So it, you use it when you are creating a pitch deck and you want to send it to investors, so you know who has it and uh, and who views it and how long they’ve viewed it. And it’s basically that. Um, so anyway, Card is pretty badass. That actually might be one of the highest potential businesses you have here, I think.

Steph Smith: Yeah, and I mean, he actually runs Card as a subscription business, so that’s $1 million AR and I think it’s probably way past that today. I think you’re going to like the next one though. Go to uh, this next episode.net. I think it’s actually next-episode.net. It’s the, it’s such an old site. I think the guy’s been running it for 15 years. Um, and if you just open it up, you’ll, you’ll get a sense about the UI hasn’t caught up to where we are today, but it’s amazing because this guy’s been running it for 15 years. Guess how much traffic this thing gets?

Sam Parr: I’m looking at it on SimilarWeb. This is crazy. So what is this called? So next-episode.net. What is this?

Steph Smith: Yeah. It’s a site where basically, like there’s no way I would think that a site like this would still exist, but people use it, um, that basically helps you track your TV shows and it’s a little bit of a community. So I, I think, I’ve never used it, but you know, people watch The Bachelor, they hang out on this site and they find other people who watch The Bachelor and they talk about it. Um, but it’s kind of crazy how much traffic this site gets.

Sam Parr: This is awesome. And so here’s why I know this is a big business. So if you go to SimilarWeb and you look at their traffic, the estimated monthly traffic is 3.6 million uniques a month. That’s decent, that’s not like the best, but it’s like really good, particularly for one person. But if you go to traffic source, it says that 80% is coming from direct traffic, which basically means that there’s a lot of people that are just typing in this URL and going there on a consistent basis. And if you do that, you probably can have a huge business and it looks like they have got um, a premium, which is only $2 a month. But uh, how big is this?

Steph Smith: So I don’t know exactly how big it is, but I’m pretty sure he does several million a year. He gets over 200,000 page views a month, um, and I, he’s been going at this for several years. So I know he makes enough to have left his full-time job several years ago and he’s grown a lot since then. So I’d probably say a couple mil.

Sam Parr: Wow, that’s crazy. All right, that’s a, that’s a good find. It’s just one guy, he’s the only employee?

Steph Smith: I think so. I mean, he’s, he, he probably has some staff now that he’s been growing, but I, I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have a big team.

Sam Parr: All right, what’s next?

Steph Smith: All right, Card is actually one guy. He might have contractors, but Card, C-A-R-R-D. I’ve built sites with Card. People probably recognize Card, or they’ve almost certainly been on a site built by Card. Um, and it’s built by this guy, AJ, and it’s doing $1 million a year AR. I think he actually just raised money now, so I think he’s kind of going for Did he really just raise money? I would love to invest in this.

Steph Smith: Yeah, he raised money earlier this year. He was like big in the Indie Hacker community and then I think he posted on Indie Hackers this year like, “Look, I’m, I’m going to raise money, I’m going to, you know, really go for it.” But he, it’s kind of crazy. 2.5 million sites have been built on Card. And yeah, I, he hit, I think he said like a million AR.

Sam Parr: So it’s a free platform for building simply, uh, for building simple, fully responsive one-page websites that can do anything. Um, I actually think, so there, there was this company called, um, you remember About.me?

Steph Smith: No, what is that?

Sam Parr: About.me. So go to about.me. Uh, that’s the URL. Um, you don’t remember that? You’re, I’m just a little bit older than you, which, which is like, then that few years probably makes a difference. Because about.me, when I was just getting started, was considered like the preeminent builder in this space. And they made, it, it was a one-page website where you can explain stuff about you. And it was started by this guy named Tony Conrad, I believe his name is, and he’s this cool-looking dude who uh, is also an investor now, and he sold it after only two years to AOL for like $40 million and it was bootstrapped. You see about.me, you see how it’s like basically the same thing?

Steph Smith: Yeah, it reminds me of, you’ve heard of Unsplash, right?

Sam Parr: I love Unsplash.

Steph Smith: So, or sorry, I’m not thinking of Unsplash, I’m talking about Unfold. Unfold is this app that basically for Instagrammers, it adds different, like it allows you to kind of piece together pictures for your Instagram story, but they also started these like one-pagers, um, where basically because all these Instagrammers, they’re like, “Oh, I need my link in bio.” Link in bio is also a site like that, but Unfold, um, was sold to Squarespace, I think like last year or something. I don’t know for how much though.

Sam Parr: Man, I think that these one-page website builders are actually really cool. So there’s this other business I almost invested in. I think it’s called mediakits.com or .co. I believe it’s just called Media Kit. And all they did was built a really slick website builder where you could create your media kit, kit, and send it to people. So, and uh, whether you’re the Hustle or you’re just an Instagram person, you just had this like, uh, thehustle.co/mediakit or like, you know, um, stephsmith.com/mediakit, and it was that your media kit was on there. And that sounds like not that important, but it’s kind of like Doxen. So Doxen, if you don’t know what Doxen is, Doxen is basically all it is is PowerPoint in the cloud, but email gated. So you have to enter your email and then you get all types of information. So it, you use it when you are creating a pitch deck and you want to send it to investors, so you know who has it and uh, and who views it and how long they’ve viewed it. And it’s basically that. Um, so anyway, Card is pretty badass. That actually might be one of the highest potential businesses you have here, I think.

Steph Smith: Yeah, and I mean, he actually runs Card as a subscription business, so that’s $1 million AR and I think it’s probably way past that today. I think you’re going to like the next one though. Go to uh, this next episode.net. I think it’s actually next-episode.net. It’s the, it’s such an old site. I think the guy’s been running it for 15 years. Um, and if you just open it up, you’ll, you’ll get a sense about the UI hasn’t caught up to where we are today, but it’s amazing because this guy’s been running it for 15 years. Guess how much traffic this thing gets?

Sam Parr: I’m looking at it on SimilarWeb. This is crazy. So what is this called? So next-episode.net. What is this?

Steph Smith: Yeah. It’s a site where basically, like there’s no way I would think that a site like this would still exist, but people use it, um, that basically helps you track your TV shows and it’s a little bit of a community. So I, I think, I’ve never used it, but you know, people watch The Bachelor, they hang out on this site and they find other people who watch The Bachelor and they talk about it. Um, but it’s kind of crazy how much traffic this site gets.

Sam Parr: This is awesome. And so here’s why I know this is a big business. So if you go to SimilarWeb and you look at their traffic, the estimated monthly traffic is 3.6 million uniques a month. That’s decent, that’s not like the best, but it’s like really good, particularly for one person. But if you go to traffic source, it says that 80% is coming from direct traffic, which basically means that there’s a lot of people that are just typing in this URL and going there on a consistent basis. And if you do that, you probably can have a huge business and it looks like they have got um, a premium, which is only $2 a month. But uh, how big is this?

Steph Smith: So I don’t know exactly how big it is, but I’m pretty sure he does several million a year. He gets over 200,000 page views a month, um, and I, he’s been going at this for several years. So I know he makes enough to have left his full-time job several years ago and he’s grown a lot since then. So I’d probably say a couple mil.

Sam Parr: Wow, that’s crazy. All right, that’s a, that’s a good find. It’s just one guy, he’s the only employee?

Steph Smith: I think so. I mean, he’s, he, he probably has some staff now that he’s been growing, but I, I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have a big team.

Sam Parr: All right, what’s next?

Steph Smith: All right, Card is actually one guy. He might have contractors, but Card, C-A-R-R-D. I’ve built sites with Card. People probably recognize Card, or they’ve almost certainly been on a site built by Card. Um, and it’s built by this guy, AJ, and it’s doing $1 million a year AR. I think he actually just raised money now, so I think he’s kind of going for Did he really just raise money? I would love to invest in this.

Steph Smith: Yeah, he raised money earlier this year. He was like big in the Indie Hacker community and then I think he posted on Indie Hackers this year like, “Look, I’m, I’m going to raise money, I’m going to, you know, really go for it.” But he, it’s kind of crazy. 2.5 million sites have been built on Card. And yeah, I, he hit, I think he said like a million AR.

Sam Parr: So it’s a free platform for building simply, uh, for building simple, fully responsive one-page websites that can do anything. Um, I actually think, so there, there was this company called, um, you remember About.me?

Steph Smith: No, what is that?

Sam Parr: About.me. So go to about.me. Uh, that’s the URL. Um, you don’t remember that? You’re, I’m just a little bit older than you, which, which is like, then that few years probably makes a difference. Because about.me, when I was just getting started, was considered like the preeminent builder in this space. And they made, it, it was a one-page website where you can explain stuff about you. And it was started by this guy named Tony Conrad, I believe his name is, and he’s this cool-looking dude who uh, is also an investor now, and he sold it after only two years to AOL for like $40 million and it was bootstrapped. You see about.me, you see how it’s like basically the same thing?

Steph Smith: Yeah, it reminds me of, you’ve heard of Unsplash, right?

Sam Parr: I love Unsplash.

Steph Smith: So, or sorry, I’m not thinking of Unsplash, I’m talking about Unfold. Unfold is this app that basically for Instagrammers, it adds different, like it allows you to kind of piece together pictures for your Instagram story, but they also started these like one-pagers, um, where basically because all these Instagrammers, they’re like, “Oh, I need my link in bio.” Link in bio is also a site like that, but Unfold, um, was sold to Squarespace, I think like last year or something. I don’t know for how much though.

Sam Parr: Man, I think that these one-page website builders are actually really cool. So there’s this other business I almost invested in. I think it’s called mediakits.com or .co. I believe it’s just called Media Kit. And all they did was built a really slick website builder where you could create your media kit, kit, and send it to people. So, and uh, whether you’re the Hustle or you’re just an Instagram person, you just had this like, uh, thehustle.co/mediakit or like, you know, um, stephsmith.com/mediakit, and it was that your media kit was on there. And that sounds like not that important, but it’s kind of like Doxen. So Doxen, if you don’t know what Doxen is, Doxen is basically all it is is PowerPoint in the cloud, but email gated. So you have to enter your email and then you get all types of information. So it, you use it when you are creating a pitch deck and you want to send it to investors, so you know who has it and uh, and who views it and how long they’ve viewed it. And it’s basically that. Um, so anyway, Card is pretty badass. That actually might be one of the highest potential businesses you have here, I think.

Steph Smith: Yeah, and I mean, he actually runs Card as a subscription business, so that’s $1 million AR and I think it’s probably way past that today. I think you’re going to like the next one though. Go to uh, this next episode.net. I think it’s actually next-episode.net. It’s the, it’s such an old site. I think the guy’s been running it for 15 years. Um, and if you just open it up, you’ll, you’ll get a sense about the UI hasn’t caught up to where we are today, but it’s amazing because this guy’s been running it for 15 years. Guess how much traffic this thing gets?

Sam Parr: I’m looking at it on SimilarWeb. This is crazy. So what is this called? So next-episode.net. What is this?

Steph Smith: Yeah. It’s a site where basically, like there’s no way I would think that a site like this would still exist, but people use it, um, that basically helps you track your TV shows and it’s a little bit of a community. So I, I think, I’ve never used it, but you know, people watch The Bachelor, they hang out on this site and they find other people who watch The Bachelor and they talk about it. Um, but it’s kind of crazy how much traffic this site gets.

Sam Parr: This is awesome. And so here’s why I know this is a big business. So if you go to SimilarWeb and you look at their traffic, the estimated monthly traffic is 3.6 million uniques a month. That’s decent, that’s not like the best, but it’s like really good, particularly for one person. But if you go to traffic source, it says that 80% is coming from direct traffic, which basically means that there’s a lot of people that are just typing in this URL and going there on a consistent basis. And if you do that, you probably can have a huge business and it looks like they have got um, a premium, which is only $2 a month. But uh, how big is this?

Steph Smith: So I don’t know exactly how big it is, but I’m pretty sure he does several million a year. He gets over 200,000 page views a month, um, and I, he’s been going at this for several years. So I know he makes enough to have left his full-time job several years ago and he’s grown a lot since then. So I’d probably say a couple mil.

Sam Parr: Wow, that’s crazy. All right, that’s a, that’s a good find. It’s just one guy, he’s the only employee?

Steph Smith: I think so. I mean, he’s, he, he probably has some staff now that he’s been growing, but I, I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have a big team.

Sam Parr: All right, what’s next?

Steph Smith: All right, Card is actually one guy. He might have contractors, but Card, C-A-R-R-D. I’ve built sites with Card. People probably recognize Card, or they’ve almost certainly been on a site built by Card. Um, and it’s built by this guy, AJ, and it’s doing $1 million a year AR. I think he actually just raised money now, so I think he’s kind of going for Did he really just raise money? I would love to invest in this.

Steph Smith: Yeah, he raised money earlier this year. He was like big in the Indie Hacker community and then I think he posted on Indie Hackers this year like, “Look, I’m, I’m going to raise money, I’m going to, you know, really go for it.” But he, it’s kind of crazy. 2.5 million sites have been built on Card. And yeah, I, he hit, I think he said like a million AR.

Sam Parr: So it’s a free platform for building simply, uh, for building simple, fully responsive one-page websites that can do anything. Um, I actually think, so there, there was this company called, um, you remember About.me?

Steph Smith: No, what is that?

Sam Parr: About.me. So go to about.me. Uh, that’s the URL. Um, you don’t remember that? You’re, I’m just a little bit older than you, which, which is like, then that few years probably makes a difference. Because about.me, when I was just getting started, was considered like the preeminent builder in this space. And they made, it, it was a one-page website where you can explain stuff about you. And it was started by this guy named Tony Conrad, I believe his name is, and he’s this cool-looking dude who uh, is also an investor now, and he sold it after only two years to AOL for like $40 million and it was bootstrapped. You see about.me, you see how it’s like basically the same thing?

Steph Smith: Yeah, it reminds me of, you’ve heard of Unsplash, right?

Sam Parr: I love Unsplash.

Steph Smith: So, or sorry, I’m not thinking of Unsplash, I’m talking about Unfold. Unfold is this app that basically for Instagrammers, it adds different, like it allows you to kind of piece together pictures for your Instagram story, but they also started these like one-pagers, um, where basically because all these Instagrammers, they’re like, “Oh, I need my link in bio.” Link in bio is also a site like that, but Unfold, um, was sold to Squarespace, I think like last year or something. I don’t know for how much though.

Sam Parr: Man, I think that these one-page website builders are actually really cool. So there’s this other business I almost invested in. I think it’s called mediakits.com or .co. I believe it’s just called Media Kit. And all they did was built a really slick website builder where you could create your media kit, kit, and send it to people. So, and uh, whether you’re the Hustle or you’re just an Instagram person, you just had this like, uh, thehustle.co/mediakit or like, you know, um, stephsmith.com/mediakit, and it was that your media kit was on there. And that sounds like not that important, but it’s kind of like Doxen. So Doxen, if you don’t know what Doxen is, Doxen is basically all it is is PowerPoint in the cloud, but email gated. So you have to enter your email and then you get all types of information. So it, you use it when you are creating a pitch deck and you want to send it to investors, so you know who has it and uh, and who views it and how long they’ve viewed it. And it’s basically that. Um, so anyway, Card is pretty badass. That actually might be one of the highest potential businesses you have here, I think.

Steph Smith: Yeah, and I mean, he actually runs Card as a subscription business, so that’s $1 million AR and I think it’s probably way past that today. I think you’re going to like the next one though. Go to uh, this next episode.net. I think it’s actually next-episode.net. It’s the, it’s such an old site. I think the guy’s been running it for 15 years. Um, and if you just open it up, you’ll, you’ll get a sense about the UI hasn’t caught up to where we are today, but it’s amazing because this guy’s been running it for 15 years. Guess how much traffic this thing gets?

Sam Parr: I’m looking at it on SimilarWeb. This is crazy. So what is this called? So next-episode.net. What is this?

Steph Smith: Yeah. It’s a site where basically, like there’s no way I would think that a site like this would still exist, but people use it, um, that basically helps you track your TV shows and it’s a little bit of a community. So I, I think, I’ve never used it, but you know, people watch The Bachelor, they hang out on this site and they find other people who watch The Bachelor and they talk about it. Um, but it’s kind of crazy how much traffic this site gets.

Sam Parr: This is awesome. And so here’s why I know this is a big business. So if you go to SimilarWeb and you look at their traffic, the estimated monthly traffic is 3.6 million uniques a month. That’s decent, that’s not like the best, but it’s like really good, particularly for one person. But if you go to traffic source, it says that 80% is coming from direct traffic, which basically means that there’s a lot of people that are just typing in this URL and going there on a consistent basis. And if you do that, you probably can have a huge business and it looks like they have got um, a premium, which is only $2 a month. But uh, how big is this?

Steph Smith: So I don’t know exactly how big it is, but I’m pretty sure he does several million a year. He gets over 200,000 page views a month, um, and I, he’s been going at this for several years. So I know he makes enough to have left his full-time job several years ago and he’s grown a lot since then. So I’d probably say a couple mil.

Sam Parr: Wow, that’s crazy. All right, that’s a, that’s a good find. It’s just one guy, he’s the only employee?

Steph Smith: I think so. I mean, he’s, he, he probably has some staff now that he’s been growing, but I, I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have a big team.

Sam Parr: All right, what’s next?

Steph Smith: All right, Card is actually one guy. He might have contractors, but Card, C-A-R-R-D. I’ve built sites with Card. People probably recognize Card, or they’ve almost certainly been on a site built by Card. Um, and it’s built by this guy, AJ, and it’s doing $1 million a year AR. I think he actually just raised money now, so I think he’s kind of going for Did he really just raise money? I would love to invest in this.

Steph Smith: Yeah, he raised money earlier this year. He was like big in the Indie Hacker community and then I think he posted on Indie Hackers this year like, “Look, I’m, I’m going to raise money, I’m going to, you know, really go for it.” But he, it’s kind of crazy. 2.5 million sites have been built on Card. And yeah, I, he hit, I think he said like a million AR.

Sam Parr: So it’s a free platform for building simply, uh, for building simple, fully responsive one-page websites that can do anything. Um, I actually think, so there, there was this company called, um, you remember About.me?

Steph Smith: No, what is that?

Sam Parr: About.me. So go to about.me. Uh, that’s the URL. Um, you don’t remember that? You’re, I’m just a little bit older than you, which, which is like, then that few years probably makes a difference. Because about.me, when I was just getting started, was considered like the preeminent builder in this space. And they made, it, it was a one-page website where you can explain stuff about you. And it was started by this guy named Tony Conrad, I believe his name is, and he’s this cool-looking dude who uh, is also an investor now, and he sold it after only two years to AOL for like $40 million and it was bootstrapped. You see about.me, you see how it’s like basically the same thing?

Steph Smith: Yeah, it reminds me of, you’ve heard of Unsplash, right?

Sam Parr: I love Unsplash.

Steph Smith: So, or sorry, I’m not thinking of Unsplash, I’m talking about Unfold. Unfold is this app that basically for Instagrammers, it adds different, like it allows you to kind of piece together pictures for your Instagram story, but they also started these like one-pagers, um, where basically because all these Instagrammers, they’re like, “Oh, I need my link in bio.” Link in bio is also a site like that, but Unfold, um, was sold to Squarespace, I think like last year or something. I don’t know for how much though.

Sam Parr: Man, I think that these one-page website builders are actually really cool. So there’s this other business I almost invested in. I think it’s called mediakits.com or .co. I believe it’s just called Media Kit. And all they did was built a really slick website builder where you could create your media kit, kit, and send it to people. So, and uh, whether you’re the Hustle or you’re just an Instagram person, you just had this like, uh, thehustle.co/mediakit or like, you know, um, stephsmith.com/mediakit, and it was that your media kit was on there. And that sounds like not that important, but it’s kind of like Doxen. So Doxen, if you don’t know what Doxen is, Doxen is basically all it is is PowerPoint in the cloud, but email gated. So you have to enter your email and then you get all types of information. So it, you use it when you are creating a pitch deck and you want to send it to investors, so you know who has it and uh, and who views it and how long they’ve viewed it. And it’s basically that. Um, so anyway, Card is pretty badass. That actually might be one of the highest potential businesses you have here, I think.

Steph Smith: Yeah, and I mean, he actually runs Card as a subscription business, so that’s $1 million AR and I think it’s probably way past that today. I think you’re going to like the next one though. Go to uh, this next episode.net. I think it’s actually next-episode.net. It’s the, it’s such an old site. I think the guy’s been running it for 15 years. Um, and if you just open it up, you’ll, you’ll get a sense about the UI hasn’t caught up to where we are today, but it’s amazing because this guy’s been running it for 15 years. Guess how much traffic this thing gets?

Sam Parr: I’m looking at it on SimilarWeb. This is crazy. So what is this called? So next-episode.net. What is this?

Steph Smith: Yeah. It’s a site where basically, like there’s no way I would think that a site like this would still exist, but people use it, um, that basically helps you track your TV shows and it’s a little bit of a community. So I, I think, I’ve never used it, but you know, people watch The Bachelor, they hang out on this site and they find other people who watch The Bachelor and they talk about it. Um, but it’s kind of crazy how much traffic this site gets.

Sam Parr: This is awesome. And so here’s why I know this is a big business. So if you go to SimilarWeb and you look at their traffic, the estimated monthly traffic is 3.6 million uniques a month. That’s decent, that’s not like the best, but it’s like really good, particularly for one person. But if you go to traffic source, it says that 80% is coming from direct traffic, which basically means that there’s a lot of people that are just typing in this URL and going there on a consistent basis. And if you do that, you probably can have a huge business and it looks like they have got um, a premium, which is only $2 a month. But uh, how big is this?

Steph Smith: So I don’t know exactly how big it is, but I’m pretty sure he does several million a year. He gets over 200,000 page views a month, um, and I, he’s been going at this for several years. So I know he makes enough to have left his full-time job several years ago and he’s grown a lot since then. So I’d probably say a couple mil.

Sam Parr: Wow, that’s crazy. All right, that’s a, that’s a good find. It’s just one guy, he’s the only employee?

Steph Smith: I think so. I mean, he’s, he, he probably has some staff now that he’s been growing, but I, I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have a big team.

Sam Parr: All right, what’s next?

Steph Smith: All right, Card is actually one guy. He might have contractors, but Card, C-A-R-R-D. I’ve built sites with Card. People probably recognize Card, or they’ve almost certainly been on a site built by Card. Um, and it’s built by this guy, AJ, and it’s doing $1 million a year AR. I think he actually just raised money now, so I think he’s kind of going for Did he really just raise money? I would love to invest in this.

Steph Smith: Yeah, he raised money earlier this year. He was like big in the Indie Hacker community and then I think he posted on Indie Hackers this year like, “Look, I’m, I’m going to raise money, I’m going to, you know, really go for it.” But he, it’s kind of crazy. 2.5 million sites have been built on Card. And yeah, I, he hit, I think he said like a million AR.

Sam Parr: So it’s a free platform for building simply, uh, for building simple, fully responsive one-page websites that can do anything. Um, I actually think, so there, there was this company called, um, you remember About.me?

Steph Smith: No, what is that?

Sam Parr: About.me. So go to about.me. Uh, that’s the URL. Um, you don’t remember that? You’re, I’m just a little bit older than you, which, which is like, then that few years probably makes a difference. Because about.me, when I was just getting started, was considered like the preeminent builder in this space. And they made, it, it was a one-page website where you can explain stuff about you. And it was started by this guy named Tony Conrad, I believe his name is, and he’s this cool-looking dude who uh, is also an investor now, and he sold it after only two years to AOL for like $40 million and it was bootstrapped. You see about.me, you see how it’s like basically the same thing?

Steph Smith: Yeah, it reminds me of, you’ve heard of Unsplash, right?

Sam Parr: I love Unsplash.

Steph Smith: So, or sorry, I’m not thinking of Unsplash, I’m talking about Unfold. Unfold is this app that basically for Instagrammers, it adds different, like it allows you to kind of piece together pictures for your Instagram story, but they also started these like one-pagers, um, where basically because all these Instagrammers, they’re like, “Oh, I need my link in bio.” Link in bio is also a site like that, but Unfold, um, was sold to Squarespace, I think like last year or something. I don’t know for how much though.

Sam Parr: Man, I think that these one-page website builders are actually really cool. So there’s this other business I almost invested in. I think it’s called mediakits.com or .co. I believe it’s just called Media Kit. And all they did was built a really slick website builder where you could create your media kit, kit, and send it to people. So, and uh, whether you’re the Hustle or you’re just an Instagram person, you just had this like, uh, thehustle.co/mediakit or like, you know, um, stephsmith.com/mediakit, and it was that your media kit was on there. And that sounds like not that important, but it’s kind of like Doxen. So Doxen, if you don’t know what Doxen is, Doxen is basically all it is is PowerPoint in the cloud, but email gated. So you have to enter your email and then you get all types of information. So it, you use it when you are creating a pitch deck and you want to send it to investors, so you know who has it and uh, and who views it and how long they’ve viewed it. And it’s basically that. Um, so anyway, Card is pretty badass. That actually might be one of the highest potential businesses you have here, I think.

Steph Smith: Yeah, and I mean, he actually runs Card as a subscription business, so that’s $1 million AR and I think it’s probably way past that today. I think you’re going to like the next one though. Go to uh, this next episode.net. I think it’s actually next-episode.net. It’s the, it’s such an old site. I think the guy’s been running it for 15 years. Um, and if you just open it up, you’ll, you’ll get a sense about the UI hasn’t caught up to where we are today, but it’s amazing because this guy’s been running it for 15 years. Guess how much traffic this thing gets?

Sam Parr: I’m looking at it on SimilarWeb. This is crazy. So what is this called? So next-episode.net. What is this?

Steph Smith: Yeah. It’s a site where basically, like there’s no way I would think that a site like this would still exist, but people use it, um, that basically helps you track your TV shows and it’s a little bit of a community. So I, I think, I’ve never used it, but you know, people watch The Bachelor, they hang out on this site and they find other people who watch The Bachelor and they talk about it. Um, but it’s kind of crazy how much traffic this site gets.

Sam Parr: This is awesome. And so here’s why I know this is a big business. So if you go to SimilarWeb and you look at their traffic, the estimated monthly traffic is 3.6 million uniques a month. That’s decent, that’s not like the best, but it’s like really good, particularly for one person. But if you go to traffic source, it says that 80% is coming from direct traffic, which basically means that there’s a lot of people that are just typing in this URL and going there on a consistent basis. And if you do that, you probably can have a huge business and it looks like they have got um, a premium, which is only $2 a month. But uh, how big is this?

Steph Smith: So I don’t know exactly how big it is, but I’m pretty sure he does several million a year. He gets over 200,000 page views a month, um, and I, he’s been going at this for several years. So I know he makes enough to have left his full-time job several years ago and he’s grown a lot since then. So I’d probably say a couple mil.

Sam Parr: Wow, that’s crazy. All right, that’s a, that’s a good find. It’s just one guy, he’s the only employee?

Steph Smith: I think so. I mean, he’s, he, he probably has some staff now that he’s been growing, but I, I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have a big team.

Sam Parr: All right, what’s next?

Steph Smith: All right, Card is actually one guy. He might have contractors, but Card, C-A-R-R-D. I’ve built sites with Card. People probably recognize Card, or they’ve almost certainly been on a site built by Card. Um, and it’s built by this guy, AJ, and it’s doing $1 million a year AR. I think he actually just raised money now, so I think he’s kind of going for Did he really just raise money? I would love to invest in this.

Steph Smith: Yeah, he raised money earlier this year. He was like big in the Indie Hacker community and then I think he posted on Indie Hackers this year like, “Look, I’m, I’m going to raise money, I’m going to, you know, really go for it.” But he, it’s kind of crazy. 2.5 million sites have been built on Card. And yeah, I, he hit, I think he said like a million AR.

Sam Parr: So it’s a free platform for building simply, uh, for building simple, fully responsive one-page websites that can do anything. Um, I actually think, so there, there was this company called, um, you remember About.me?

Steph Smith: No, what is that?

Sam Parr: About.me. So go to about.me. Uh, that’s the URL. Um, you don’t remember that? You’re, I’m just a little bit older than you, which, which is like, then that few years probably makes a difference. Because about.me, when I was just getting started, was considered like the preeminent builder in this space. And they made, it, it was a one-page website where you can explain stuff about you. And it was started by this guy named Tony Conrad, I believe his name is, and he’s this cool-looking dude who uh, is also an investor now, and he sold it after only two years to AOL for like $40 million and it was bootstrapped. You see about.me, you see how it’s like basically the same thing?

Steph Smith: Yeah, it reminds me of, you’ve heard of Unsplash, right?

Sam Parr: I love Unsplash.

Steph Smith: So, or sorry, I’m not thinking of Unsplash, I’m talking about Unfold. Unfold is this app that basically for Instagrammers, it adds different, like it allows you to kind of piece together pictures for your Instagram story, but they also started these like one-pagers, um, where basically because all these Instagrammers, they’re like, “Oh, I need my link in bio.” Link in bio is also a site like that, but Unfold, um, was sold to Squarespace, I think like last year or something. I don’t know for how much though.

Sam Parr: Man, I think that these one-page website builders are actually really cool. So there’s this other business I almost invested in. I think it’s called mediakits.com or .co. I believe it’s just called Media Kit. And all they did was built a really slick website builder where you could create your media kit, kit, and send it to people. So, and uh, whether you’re the Hustle or you’re just an Instagram person, you just had this like, uh, thehustle.co/mediakit or like, you know, um, stephsmith.com/mediakit, and it was that your media kit was on there. And that sounds like not that important, but it’s kind of like Doxen. So Doxen, if you don’t know what Doxen is, Doxen is basically all it is is PowerPoint in the cloud, but email gated. So you have to enter your email and then you get all types of information. So it, you use it when you are creating a pitch deck and you want to send it to investors, so you know who has it and uh, and who views it and how long they’ve viewed it. And it’s basically that. Um, so anyway, Card is pretty badass. That actually might be one of the highest potential businesses you have here, I think.

Steph Smith: Yeah, and I mean, he actually runs Card as a subscription business, so that’s $1 million AR and I think it’s probably way past that today. I think you’re going to like the next one though. Go to uh, this next episode.net. I think it’s actually next-episode.net. It’s the, it’s such an old site. I think the guy’s been running it for 15 years. Um, and if you just open it up, you’ll, you’ll get a sense about the UI hasn’t caught up to where we are today, but it’s amazing because this guy’s been running it for 15 years. Guess how much traffic this thing gets?

Sam Parr: I’m looking at it on SimilarWeb. This is crazy. So what is this called? So next-episode.net. What is this?

Steph Smith: Yeah. It’s a site where basically, like there’s no way I would think that a site like this would still exist, but people use it, um, that basically helps you track your TV shows and it’s a little bit of a community. So I, I think, I’ve never used it, but you know, people watch The Bachelor, they hang out on this site and they find other people who watch The Bachelor and they talk about it. Um, but it’s kind of crazy how much traffic this site gets.

Sam Parr: This is awesome. And so here’s why I know this is a big business. So if you go to SimilarWeb and you look at their traffic, the estimated monthly traffic is 3.6 million uniques a month. That’s decent, that’s not like the best, but it’s like really good, particularly for one person. But if you go to traffic source, it says that 80% is coming from direct traffic, which basically means that there’s a lot of people that are just typing in this URL and going there on a consistent basis. And if you do that, you probably can have a huge business and it looks like they have got um, a premium, which is only $2 a month. But uh, how big is this?

Steph Smith: So I don’t know exactly how big it is, but I’m pretty sure he does several million a year. He gets over 200,000 page views a month, um, and I, he’s been going at this for several years. So I know he makes enough to have left his full-time job several years ago and he’s grown a lot since then. So I’d probably say a couple mil.

Sam Parr: Wow, that’s crazy. All right, that’s a, that’s a good find. It’s just one guy, he’s the only employee?

Steph Smith: I think so. I mean, he’s, he, he probably has some staff now that he’s been growing, but I, I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have a big team.

Sam Parr: All right, what’s next?

Steph Smith: All right, Card is actually one guy. He might have contractors, but Card, C-A-R-R-D. I’ve built sites with Card. People probably recognize Card, or they’ve almost certainly been on a site built by Card. Um, and it’s built by this guy, AJ, and it’s doing $1 million a year AR. I think he actually just raised money now, so I think he’s kind of going for Did he really just raise money? I would love to invest in this.

Steph Smith: Yeah, he raised money earlier this year. He was like big in the Indie Hacker community and then I think he posted on Indie Hackers this year like, “Look, I’m, I’m going to raise money, I’m going to, you know, really go for it.” But he, it’s kind of crazy. 2.5 million sites have been built on Card. And yeah, I, he hit, I think he said like a million AR.

Sam Parr: So it’s a free platform for building simply, uh, for building simple, fully responsive one-page websites that can do anything. Um, I actually think, so there, there was this company called, um, you remember About.me?

Steph Smith: No, what is that?

Sam Parr: About.me. So go to about.me. Uh, that’s the URL. Um, you don’t remember that? You’re, I’m just a little bit older than you, which, which is like, then that few years probably makes a difference. Because about.me, when I was just getting started, was considered like the preeminent builder in this space. And they made, it, it was a one-page website where you can explain stuff about you. And it was started by this guy named Tony Conrad, I believe his name is, and he’s this cool-looking dude who uh, is also an investor now, and he sold it after only two years to AOL for like $40 million and it was bootstrapped. You see about.me, you see how it’s like basically the same thing?

Steph Smith: Yeah, it reminds me of, you’ve heard of Unsplash, right?

Sam Parr: I love Unsplash.

Steph Smith: So, or sorry, I’m not thinking of Unsplash, I’m talking about Unfold. Unfold is this app that basically for Instagrammers, it adds different, like it allows you to kind of piece together pictures for your Instagram story, but they also started these like one-pagers, um, where basically because all these Instagrammers, they’re like, “Oh, I need my link in bio.” Link in bio is also a site like that, but Unfold, um, was sold to Squarespace, I think like last year or something. I don’t know for how much though.

Sam Parr: Man, I think that these one-page website builders are actually really cool. So there’s this other business I almost invested in. I think it’s called mediakits.com or .co. I believe it’s just called Media Kit. And all they did was built a really slick website builder where you could create your media kit, kit, and send it to people. So, and uh, whether you’re the Hustle or you’re just an Instagram person, you just had this like, uh, thehustle.co/mediakit or like, you know, um, stephsmith.com/mediakit, and it was that your media kit was on there. And that sounds like not that important, but it’s kind of like Doxen. So Doxen, if you don’t know what Doxen is, Doxen is basically all it is is PowerPoint in the cloud, but email gated. So you have to enter your email and then you get all types of information. So it, you use it when you are creating a pitch deck and you want to send it to investors, so you know who has it and uh, and who views it and how long they’ve viewed it. And it’s basically that. Um, so anyway, Card is pretty badass. That actually might be one of the highest potential businesses you have here, I think.

Steph Smith: Yeah, and I mean, he actually runs Card as a subscription business, so that’s $1 million AR and I think it’s probably way past that today. I think you’re going to like the next one though. Go to uh, this next episode.net. I think it’s actually next-episode.net. It’s the, it’s such an old site. I think the guy’s been running it for 15 years. Um, and if you just open it up, you’ll, you’ll get a sense about the UI hasn’t caught up to where we are today, but it’s amazing because this guy’s been running it for 15 years. Guess how much traffic this thing gets?

Sam Parr: I’m looking at it on SimilarWeb. This is crazy. So what is this called? So next-episode.net. What is this?

Steph Smith: Yeah. It’s a site where basically, like there’s no way I would think that a site like this would still exist, but people use it, um, that basically helps you track your TV shows and it’s a little bit of a community. So I, I think, I’ve never used it, but you know, people watch The Bachelor, they hang out on this site and they find other people who watch The Bachelor and they talk about it. Um, but it’s kind of crazy how much traffic this site gets.

Sam Parr: This is awesome. And so here’s why I know this is a big business. So if you go to SimilarWeb and you look at their traffic, the estimated monthly traffic is 3.6 million uniques a month. That’s decent, that’s not like the best, but it’s like really good, particularly for one person. But if you go to traffic source, it says that 80% is coming from direct traffic, which basically means that there’s a lot of people that are just typing in this URL and going there on a consistent basis. And if you do that, you probably can have a huge business and it looks like they have got um, a premium, which is only $2 a month. But uh, how big is this?

Steph Smith: So I don’t know exactly how big it is, but I’m pretty sure he does several million a year. He gets over 200,000 page views a month, um, and I, he’s been going at this for several years. So I know he makes enough to have left his full-time job several years ago and he’s grown a lot since then. So I’d probably say a couple mil.

Sam Parr: Wow, that’s crazy. All right, that’s a, that’s a good find. It’s just one guy, he’s the only employee?

Steph Smith: I think so. I mean, he’s, he, he probably has some staff now that he’s been growing, but I, I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have a big team.

Sam Parr: All right, what’s next?

Steph Smith: All right, Card is actually one guy. He might have contractors, but Card, C-A-R-R-D. I’ve built sites with Card. People probably recognize Card, or they’ve almost certainly been on a site built by Card. Um, and it’s built by this guy, AJ, and it’s doing $1 million a year AR. I think he actually just raised money now, so I think he’s kind of going for Did he really just raise money? I would love to invest in this.

Steph Smith: Yeah, he raised money earlier this year. He was like big in the Indie Hacker community and then I think he posted on Indie Hackers this year like, “Look, I’m, I’m going to raise money, I’m going to, you know, really go for it.” But he, it’s kind of crazy. 2.5 million sites have been built on Card. And yeah, I, he hit, I think he said like a million AR.

Sam Parr: So it’s a free platform for building simply, uh, for building simple, fully responsive one-page websites that can do anything. Um, I actually think, so there, there was this company called, um, you remember About.me?

Steph Smith: No, what is that?

Sam Parr: About.me. So go to about.me. Uh, that’s the URL. Um, you don’t remember that? You’re, I’m just a little bit older than you, which, which is like, then that few years probably makes a difference. Because about.me, when I was just getting started, was considered like the preeminent builder in this space. And they made, it, it was a one-page website where you can explain stuff about you. And it was started by this guy named Tony Conrad, I believe his name is, and he’s this cool-looking dude who uh, is also an investor now, and he sold it after only two years to AOL for like $40 million and it was bootstrapped. You see about.me, you see how it’s like basically the same thing?

Steph Smith: Yeah, it reminds me of, you’ve heard of Unsplash, right?

Sam Parr: I love Unsplash.

Steph Smith: So, or sorry, I’m not thinking of Unsplash, I’m talking about Unfold. Unfold is this app that basically for Instagrammers, it adds different, like it allows you to kind of piece together pictures for your Instagram story, but they also started these like one-pagers, um, where basically because all these Instagrammers, they’re like, “Oh, I need my link in bio.” Link in bio is also a site like that, but Unfold, um, was sold to Squarespace, I think like last year or something. I don’t know for how much though.

Sam Parr: Man, I think that these one-page website builders are actually really cool. So there’s this other business I almost invested in. I think it’s called mediakits.com or .co. I believe it’s just called Media Kit. And all they did was built a really slick website builder where you could create your media kit, kit, and send it to people. So, and uh, whether you’re the Hustle or you’re just an Instagram person, you just had this like, uh, thehustle.co/mediakit or like, you know, um, stephsmith.com/mediakit, and it was that your media kit was on there. And that sounds like not that important, but it’s kind of like Doxen. So Doxen, if you don’t know what Doxen is, Doxen is basically all it is is PowerPoint in the cloud, but email gated. So you have to enter your email and then you get all types of information. So it, you use it when you are creating a pitch deck and you want to send it to investors, so you know who has it and uh, and who views it and how long they’ve viewed it. And it’s basically that. Um, so anyway, Card is pretty badass. That actually might be one of the highest potential businesses you have here, I think.

Steph Smith: Yeah, and I mean, he actually runs Card as a subscription business, so that’s $1 million AR and I think it’s probably way past that today. I think you’re going to like the next one though. Go to uh, this next episode.net. I think it’s actually next-episode.net. It’s the, it’s such an old site. I think the guy’s been running it for 15 years. Um, and if you just open it up, you’ll, you’ll get a sense about the UI hasn’t caught up to where we are today, but it’s amazing because this guy’s been running it for 15 years. Guess how much traffic this thing gets?

Sam Parr: I’m looking at it on SimilarWeb. This is crazy. So what is this called? So next-episode.net. What is this?

Steph Smith: Yeah. It’s a site where basically, like there’s no way I would think that a site like this would still exist, but people use it, um, that basically helps you track your TV shows and it’s a little bit of a community. So I, I think, I’ve never used it, but you know, people watch The Bachelor, they hang out on this site and they find other people who watch The Bachelor and they talk about it. Um, but it’s kind of crazy how much traffic this site gets.

Sam Parr: This is awesome. And so here’s why I know this is a big business. So if you go to SimilarWeb and you look at their traffic, the estimated monthly traffic is 3.6 million uniques a month. That’s decent, that’s not like the best, but it’s like really good, particularly for one person. But if you go to traffic source, it says that 80% is coming from direct traffic, which basically means that there’s a lot of people that are just typing in this URL and going there on a consistent basis. And if you do that, you probably can have a huge business and it looks like they have got um, a premium, which is only $2 a month. But uh, how big is this?

Steph Smith: So I don’t know exactly how big it is, but I’m pretty sure he does several million a year. He gets over 200,000 page views a month, um, and I, he’s been going at this for several years. So I know he makes enough to have left his full-time job several years ago and he’s grown a lot since then. So I’d probably say a couple mil.

Sam Parr: Wow, that’s crazy. All right, that’s a, that’s a good find. It’s just one guy, he’s the only employee?

Steph Smith: I think so. I mean, he’s, he, he probably has some staff now that he’s been growing, but I, I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have a big team.

Sam Parr: All right, what’s next?

Steph Smith: All right, Card is actually one guy. He might have contractors, but Card, C-A-R-R-D. I’ve built sites with Card. People probably recognize Card, or they’ve almost certainly been on a site built by Card. Um, and it’s built by this guy, AJ, and it’s doing $1 million a year AR. I think he actually just raised money now, so I think he’s kind of going for Did he really just raise money? I would love to invest in this.

Steph Smith: Yeah, he raised money earlier this year. He was like big in the Indie Hacker community and then I think he posted on Indie Hackers this year like, “Look, I’m, I’m going to raise money, I’m going to, you know, really go for it.” But he, it’s kind of crazy. 2.5 million sites have been built on Card. And yeah, I, he hit, I think he said like a million AR.

Sam Parr: So it’s a free platform for building simply, uh, for building simple, fully responsive one-page websites that can do anything. Um, I actually think, so there, there was this company called, um, you remember About.me?

Steph Smith: No, what is that?

Sam Parr: About.me. So go to about.me. Uh, that’s the URL. Um, you don’t remember that? You’re, I’m just a little bit older than you, which, which is like, then that few years probably makes a difference. Because about.me, when I was just getting started, was considered like the preeminent builder in this space. And they made, it, it was a one-page website where you can explain stuff about you. And it was started by this guy named Tony Conrad, I believe his name is, and he’s this cool-looking dude who uh, is also an investor now, and he sold it after only two years to AOL for like $40 million and it was bootstrapped. You see about.me, you see how it’s like basically the same thing?

Steph Smith: Yeah, it reminds me of, you’ve heard of Unsplash, right?

Sam Parr: I love Unsplash.

Steph Smith: So, or sorry, I’m not thinking of Unsplash, I’m talking about Unfold. Unfold is this app that basically for Instagrammers, it adds different, like it allows you to kind of piece together pictures for your Instagram story, but they also started these like one-pagers, um, where basically because all these Instagrammers, they’re like, “Oh, I need my link in bio.” Link in bio is also a site like that, but Unfold, um, was sold to Squarespace, I think like last year or something. I don’t know for how much though.

Sam Parr: Man, I think that these one-page website builders are actually really cool. So there’s this other business I almost invested in. I think it’s called mediakits.com or .co. I believe it’s just called Media Kit. And all they did was built a really slick website builder where you could create your media kit, kit, and send it to people. So, and uh, whether you’re the Hustle or you’re just an Instagram person, you just had this like, uh, thehustle.co/mediakit or like, you know, um, stephsmith.com/mediakit, and it was that your media kit was on there. And that sounds like not that important, but it’s kind of like Doxen. So Doxen, if you don’t know what Doxen is, Doxen is basically all it is is PowerPoint in the cloud, but email gated. So you have to enter your email and then you get all types of information. So it, you use it when you are creating a pitch deck and you want to send it to investors, so you know who has it and uh, and who views it and how long they’ve viewed it. And it’s basically that. Um, so anyway, Card is pretty badass. That actually might be one of the highest potential businesses you have here, I think.

Steph Smith: Yeah, and I mean, he actually runs Card as a subscription business, so that’s $1 million AR and I think it’s probably way past that today. I think you’re going to like the next one though. Go to uh, this next episode.net. I think it’s actually next-episode.net. It’s the, it’s such an old site. I think the guy’s been running it for 15 years. Um, and if you just open it up, you’ll, you’ll get a sense about the UI hasn’t caught up to where we are today, but it’s amazing because this guy’s been running it for 15 years. Guess how much traffic this thing gets?

Sam Parr: I’m looking at it on SimilarWeb. This is crazy. So what is this called? So next-episode.net. What is this?

Steph Smith: Yeah. It’s a site where basically, like there’s no way I would think that a site like this would still exist, but people use it, um, that basically helps you track your TV shows and it’s a little bit of a community. So I, I think, I’ve never used it, but you know, people watch The Bachelor, they hang out on this site and they find other people who watch The Bachelor and they talk about it. Um, but it’s kind of crazy how much traffic this site gets.

Sam Parr: This is awesome. And so here’s why I know this is a big business. So if you go to SimilarWeb and you look at their traffic, the estimated monthly traffic is 3.6 million uniques a month. That’s decent, that’s not like the best, but it’s like really good, particularly for one person. But if you go to traffic source, it says that 80% is coming from direct traffic, which basically means that there’s a lot of people that are just typing in this URL and going there on a consistent basis. And if you do that, you probably can have a huge business and it looks like they have got um, a premium, which is only $2 a month. But uh, how big is this?

Steph Smith: So I don’t know exactly how big it is, but I’m pretty sure he does several million a year. He gets over 200,000 page views a month, um, and I, he’s been going at this for several years. So I know he makes enough to have left his full-time job several years ago and he’s grown a lot since then. So I’d probably say a couple mil.

Sam Parr: Wow, that’s crazy. All right, that’s a, that’s a good find. It’s just one guy, he’s the only employee?

Steph Smith: I think so. I mean, he’s, he, he probably has some staff now that he’s been growing, but I, I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have a big team.

Sam Parr: All right, what’s next?

Steph Smith: All right, Card is actually one guy. He might have contractors, but Card, C-A-R-R-D. I’ve built sites with Card. People probably recognize Card, or they’ve almost certainly been on a site built by Card. Um, and it’s built by this guy, AJ, and it’s doing $1 million a year AR. I think he actually just raised money now, so I think he’s kind of going for Did he really just raise money? I would love to invest in this.

Steph Smith: Yeah, he raised money earlier this year. He was like big in the Indie Hacker community and then I think he posted on Indie Hackers this year like, “Look, I’m, I’m going to raise money, I’m going to, you know, really go for it.” But he, it’s kind of crazy. 2.5 million sites have been built on Card. And yeah, I, he hit, I think he said like a million AR.

Sam Parr: So it’s a free platform for building simply, uh, for building simple, fully responsive one-page websites that can do anything. Um, I actually think, so there, there was this company called, um, you remember About.me?

Steph Smith: No, what is that?

Sam Parr: About.me. So go to about.me. Uh, that’s the URL. Um, you don’t remember that? You’re, I’m just a little bit older than you, which, which is like, then that few years probably makes a difference. Because about.me, when I was just getting started, was considered like the preeminent builder in this space. And they made, it, it was a one-page website where you can explain stuff about you. And it was started by this guy named Tony Conrad, I believe his name is, and he’s this cool-looking dude who uh, is also an investor now, and he sold it after only two years to AOL for like $40 million and it was bootstrapped. You see about.me, you see how it’s like basically the same thing?

Steph Smith: Yeah, it reminds me of, you’ve heard of Unsplash, right?

Sam Parr: I love Unsplash.

Steph Smith: So, or sorry, I’m not thinking of Unsplash, I’m talking about Unfold. Unfold is this app that basically for Instagrammers, it adds different, like it allows you to kind of piece together pictures for your Instagram story, but they also started these like one-pagers, um, where basically because all these Instagrammers, they’re like, “Oh, I need my link in bio.” Link in bio is also a site like that, but Unfold, um, was sold to Squarespace, I think like last year or something. I don’t know for how much though.

Sam Parr: Man, I think that these one-page website builders are actually really cool. So there’s this other business I almost invested in. I think it’s called mediakits.com or .co. I believe it’s just called Media Kit. And all they did was built a really slick website builder where you could create your media kit, kit, and send it to people. So, and uh, whether you’re the Hustle or you’re just an Instagram person, you just had this like, uh, thehustle.co/mediakit or like, you know, um, stephsmith.com/mediakit, and it was that your media kit was on there. And that sounds like not that important, but it’s kind of like Doxen. So Doxen, if you don’t know what Doxen is, Doxen is basically all it is is PowerPoint in the cloud, but email gated. So you have to enter your email and then you get all types of information. So it, you use it when you are creating a pitch deck and you want to send it to investors, so you know who has it and uh, and who views it and how long they’ve viewed it. And it’s basically that. Um, so anyway, Card is pretty badass. That actually might be one of the highest potential businesses you have here, I think.

Steph Smith: Yeah, and I mean, he actually runs Card as a subscription business, so that’s $1 million AR and I think it’s probably way past that today. I think you’re going to like the next one though. Go to uh, this next episode.net. I think it’s actually next-episode.net. It’s the, it’s such an old site. I think the guy’s been running it for 15 years. Um, and if you just open it up, you’ll, you’ll get a sense about the UI hasn’t caught up to where we are today, but it’s amazing because this guy’s been running it for 15 years. Guess how much traffic this thing gets?

Sam Parr: I’m looking at it on SimilarWeb. This is crazy. So what is this called? So next-episode.net. What is this?

Steph Smith: Yeah. It’s a site where basically, like there’s no way I would think that a site like this would still exist, but people use it, um, that basically helps you track your TV shows and it’s a little bit of a community. So I, I think, I’ve never used it, but you know, people watch The Bachelor, they hang out on this site and they find other people who watch The Bachelor and they talk about it. Um, but it’s kind of crazy how much traffic this site gets.

Sam Parr: This is awesome. And so here’s why I know this is a big business. So if you go to SimilarWeb and you look at their traffic, the estimated monthly traffic is 3.6 million uniques a month. That’s decent, that’s not like the best, but it’s like really good, particularly for one person. But if you go to traffic source, it says that 80% is coming from direct traffic, which basically means that there’s a lot of people that are just typing in this URL and going there on a consistent basis. And if you do that, you probably can have a huge business and it looks like they have got um, a premium, which is only $2 a month. But uh, how big is this?

Steph Smith: So I don’t know exactly how big it is, but I’m pretty sure he does several million a year. He gets over 200,000 page views a month, um, and I, he’s been going at this for several years. So I know he makes enough to have left his full-time job several years ago and he’s grown a lot since then. So I’d probably say a couple mil.

Sam Parr: Wow, that’s crazy. All right, that’s a, that’s a good find. It’s just one guy, he’s the only employee?

Steph Smith: I think so. I mean, he’s, he, he probably has some staff now that he’s been growing, but I, I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have a big team.

Sam Parr: All right, what’s next?

Steph Smith: All right, Card is actually one guy. He might have contractors, but Card, C-A-R-R-D. I’ve built sites with Card. People probably recognize Card, or they’ve almost certainly been on a site built by Card. Um, and it’s built by this guy, AJ, and it’s doing $1 million a year AR. I think he actually just raised money now, so I think he’s kind of going for Did he really just raise money? I would love to invest in this.

Steph Smith: Yeah, he raised money earlier this year. He was like big in the Indie Hacker community and then I think he posted on Indie Hackers this year like, “Look, I’m, I’m going to raise money, I’m going to, you know, really go for it.” But he, it’s kind of crazy. 2.5 million sites have been built on Card. And yeah, I, he hit, I think he said like a million AR.

Sam Parr: So it’s a free platform for building simply, uh, for building simple, fully responsive one-page websites that can do anything. Um, I actually think, so there, there was this company called, um, you remember About.me?

Steph Smith: No, what is that?

Sam Parr: About.me. So go to about.me. Uh, that’s the URL. Um, you don’t remember that? You’re, I’m just a little bit older than you, which, which is like, then that few years probably makes a difference. Because about.me, when I was just getting started, was considered like the preeminent builder in this space. And they made, it, it was a one-page website where you can explain stuff about you. And it was started by this guy named Tony Conrad, I believe his name is, and he’s this cool-looking dude who uh, is also an investor now, and he sold it after only two years to AOL for like $40 million and it was bootstrapped. You see about.me, you see how it’s like basically the same thing?

Steph Smith: Yeah, it reminds me of, you’ve heard of Unsplash, right?

Sam Parr: I love Unsplash.

Steph Smith: So, or sorry, I’m not thinking of Unsplash, I’m talking about Unfold. Unfold is this app that basically for Instagrammers, it adds different, like it allows you to kind of piece together pictures for your Instagram story, but they also started these like one-pagers, um, where basically because all these Instagrammers, they’re like, “Oh, I need my link in bio.” Link in bio is also a site like that, but Unfold, um, was sold to Squarespace, I think like last year or something. I don’t know for how much though.

Sam Parr: Man, I think that these one-page website builders are actually really cool. So there’s this other business I almost invested in. I think it’s called mediakits.com or .co. I believe it’s just called Media Kit. And all they did was built a really slick website builder where you could create your media kit, kit, and send it to people. So, and uh, whether you’re the Hustle or you’re just an Instagram person, you just had this like, uh, thehustle.co/mediakit or like, you know, um, stephsmith.com/mediakit, and it was that your media kit was on there. And that sounds like not that important, but it’s kind of like Doxen. So Doxen, if you don’t know what Doxen is, Doxen is basically all it is is PowerPoint in the cloud, but email gated. So you have to enter your email and then you get all types of information. So it, you use it when you are creating a pitch deck and you want to send it to investors, so you know who has it and uh, and who views it and how long they’ve viewed it. And it’s basically that. Um, so anyway, Card is pretty badass. That actually might be one of the highest potential businesses you have here, I think.

Steph Smith: Yeah, and I mean, he actually runs Card as a subscription business, so that’s $1 million AR and I think it’s probably way past that today. I think you’re going to like the next one though. Go to uh, this next episode.net. I think it’s actually next-episode.net. It’s the, it’s such an old site. I think the guy’s been running it for 15 years. Um, and if you just open it up, you’ll, you’ll get a sense about the UI hasn’t caught up to where we are today, but it’s amazing because this guy’s been running it for 15 years. Guess how much traffic this thing gets?

Sam Parr: I’m looking at it on SimilarWeb. This is crazy. So what is this called? So next-episode.net. What is this?

Steph Smith: Yeah. It’s a site where basically, like there’s no way I would think that a site like this would still exist, but people use it, um, that basically helps you track your TV shows and it’s a little bit of a community. So I, I think, I’ve never used it, but you know, people watch The Bachelor, they hang out on this site and they find other people who watch The Bachelor and they talk about it. Um, but it’s kind of crazy how much traffic this site gets.

Sam Parr: This is awesome. And so here’s why I know this is a big business. So if you go to SimilarWeb and you look at their traffic, the estimated monthly traffic is 3.6 million uniques a month. That’s decent, that’s not like the best, but it’s like really good, particularly for one person. But if you go to traffic source, it says that 80% is coming from direct traffic, which basically means that there’s a lot of people that are just typing in this URL and going there on a consistent basis. And if you do that, you probably can have a huge business and it looks like they have got um, a premium, which is only $2 a month. But uh, how big is this?

Steph Smith: So I don’t know exactly how big it is, but I’m pretty sure he does several million a year. He gets over 200,000 page views a month, um, and I, he’s been going at this for several years. So I know he makes enough to have left his full-time job several years ago and he’s grown a lot since then. So I’d probably say a couple mil.

Sam Parr: Wow, that’s crazy. All right, that’s a, that’s a good find. It’s just one guy, he’s the only employee?

Steph Smith: I think so. I mean, he’s, he, he probably has some staff now that he’s been growing, but I, I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have a big team.

Sam Parr: All right, what’s next?

Steph Smith: All right, Card is actually one guy. He might have contractors, but Card, C-A-R-R-D. I’ve built sites with Card. People probably recognize Card, or they’ve almost certainly been on a site built by Card. Um, and it’s built by this guy, AJ, and it’s doing $1 million a year AR. I think he actually just raised money now, so I think he’s kind of going for Did he really just raise money? I would love to invest in this.

Steph Smith: Yeah, he raised money earlier this year. He was like big in the Indie Hacker community and then I think he posted on Indie Hackers this year like, “Look, I’m, I’m going to raise money, I’m going to, you know, really go for it.” But he, it’s kind of crazy. 2.5 million sites have been built on Card. And yeah, I, he hit, I think he said like a million AR.

Sam Parr: So it’s a free platform for building simply, uh, for building simple, fully responsive one-page websites that can do anything. Um, I actually think, so there, there was this company called, um, you remember About.me?

Steph Smith: No, what is that?

Sam Parr: About.me. So go to about.me. Uh, that’s the URL. Um, you don’t remember that? You’re, I’m just a little bit older than you, which, which is like, then that few years probably makes a difference. Because about.me, when I was just getting started, was considered like the preeminent builder in this space. And they made, it, it was a one-page website where you can explain stuff about you. And it was started by this guy named Tony Conrad, I believe his name is, and he’s this cool-looking dude who uh, is also an investor now, and he sold it after only two years to AOL for like $40 million and it was bootstrapped. You see about.me, you see how it’s like basically the same thing?

Steph Smith: Yeah, it reminds me of, you’ve heard of Unsplash, right?

Sam Parr: I love Unsplash.

Steph Smith: So, or sorry, I’m not thinking of Unsplash, I’m talking about Unfold. Unfold is this app that basically for Instagrammers, it adds different, like it allows you to kind of piece together pictures for your Instagram story, but they also started these like one-pagers, um, where basically because all these Instagrammers, they’re like, “Oh, I need my link in bio.” Link in bio is also a site like that, but Unfold, um, was sold to Squarespace, I think like last year or something. I don’t know for how much though.

Sam Parr: Man, I think that these one-page website builders are actually really cool. So there’s this other business I almost invested in. I think it’s called mediakits.com or .co. I believe it’s just called Media Kit. And all they did was built a really slick website builder where you could create your media kit, kit, and send it to people. So, and uh, whether you’re the Hustle or you’re just an Instagram person, you just had this like, uh, thehustle.co/mediakit or like, you know, um, stephsmith.com/mediakit, and it was that your media kit was on there. And that sounds like not that important, but it’s kind of like Doxen. So Doxen, if you don’t know what Doxen is, Doxen is basically all it is is PowerPoint in the cloud, but email gated. So you have to enter your email and then you get all types of information. So it, you use it when you are creating a pitch deck and you want to send it to investors, so you know who has it and uh, and who views it and how long they’ve viewed it. And it’s basically that. Um, so anyway, Card is pretty badass. That actually might be one of the highest potential businesses you have here, I think.

Steph Smith: Yeah, and I mean, he actually runs Card as a subscription business, so that’s $1 million AR and I think it’s probably way past that today. I think you’re going to like the next one though. Go to uh, this next episode.net. I think it’s actually next-episode.net. It’s the, it’s such an old site. I think the guy’s been running it for 15 years. Um, and if you just open it up, you’ll, you’ll get a sense about the UI hasn’t caught up to where we are today, but it’s amazing because this guy’s been running it for 15 years. Guess how much traffic this thing gets?

Sam Parr: I’m looking at it on SimilarWeb. This is crazy. So what is this called? So next-episode.net. What is this?

Steph Smith: Yeah. It’s a site where basically, like there’s no way I would think that a site like this would still exist, but people use it, um, that basically helps you track your TV shows and it’s a little bit of a community. So I, I think, I’ve never used it, but you know, people watch The Bachelor, they hang out on this site and they find other people who watch The Bachelor and they talk about it. Um, but it’s kind of crazy how much traffic this site gets.

Sam Parr: This is awesome. And so here’s why I know this is a big business. So if you go to SimilarWeb and you look at their traffic, the estimated monthly traffic is 3.6 million uniques a month. That’s decent, that’s not like the best, but it’s like really good, particularly for one person. But if you go to traffic source, it says that 80% is coming from direct traffic, which basically means that there’s a lot of people that are just typing in this URL and going there on a consistent basis. And if you do that, you probably can have a huge business and it looks like they have got um, a premium, which is only $2 a month. But uh, how big is this?

Steph Smith: So I don’t know exactly how big it is, but I’m pretty sure he does several million a year. He gets over 200,000 page views a month, um, and I, he’s been going at this for several years. So I know he makes enough to have left his full-time job several years ago and he’s grown a lot since then. So I’d probably say a couple mil.

Sam Parr: Wow, that’s crazy. All right, that’s a, that’s a good find. It’s just one guy, he’s the only employee?

Steph Smith: I think so. I mean, he’s, he, he probably has some staff now that he’s been growing, but I, I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have a big team.

Sam Parr: All right, what’s next?

Steph Smith: All right, Card is actually one guy. He might have contractors, but Card, C-A-R-R-D. I’ve built sites with Card. People probably recognize Card, or they’ve almost certainly been on a site built by Card. Um, and it’s built by this guy, AJ, and it’s doing $1 million a year AR. I think he actually just raised money now, so I think he’s kind of going for Did he really just raise money? I would love to invest in this.

Steph Smith: Yeah, he raised money earlier this year. He was like big in the Indie Hacker community and then I think he posted on Indie Hackers this year like, “Look, I’m, I’m going to raise money, I’m going to, you know, really go for it.” But he, it’s kind of crazy. 2.5 million sites have been built on Card. And yeah, I, he hit, I think he said like a million AR.

Sam Parr: So it’s a free platform for building simply, uh, for building simple, fully responsive one-page websites that can do anything. Um, I actually think, so there, there was this company called, um, you remember About.me?

Steph Smith: No, what is that?

Sam Parr: About.me. So go to about.me. Uh, that’s the URL. Um, you don’t remember that? You’re, I’m just a little bit older than you, which, which is like, then that few years probably makes a difference. Because about.me, when I was just getting started, was considered like the preeminent builder in this space. And they made, it, it was a one-page website where you can explain stuff about you. And it was started by this guy named Tony Conrad, I believe his name is, and he’s this cool-looking dude who uh, is also an investor now, and he sold it after only two years to AOL for like $40 million and it was bootstrapped. You see about.me, you see how it’s like basically the same thing?

Steph Smith: Yeah, it reminds me of, you’ve heard of Unsplash, right?

Sam Parr: I love Unsplash.

Steph Smith: So, or sorry, I’m not thinking of Unsplash, I’m talking about Unfold. Unfold is this app that basically for Instagrammers, it adds different, like it allows you to kind of piece together pictures for your Instagram story, but they also started these like one-pagers, um, where basically because all these Instagrammers, they’re like, “Oh, I need my link in bio.” Link in bio is also a site like that, but Unfold, um, was sold to Squarespace, I think like last year or something. I don’t know for how much though.

Sam Parr: Man, I think that these one-page website builders are actually really cool. So there’s this other business I almost invested in. I think it’s called mediakits.com or .co. I believe it’s just called Media Kit. And all they did was built a really slick website builder where you could create your media kit, kit, and send it to people. So, and uh, whether you’re the Hustle or you’re just an Instagram person, you just had this like, uh, thehustle.co/mediakit or like, you know, um, stephsmith.com/mediakit, and it was that your media kit was on there. And that sounds like not that important, but it’s kind of like Doxen. So Doxen, if you don’t know what Doxen is, Doxen is basically all it is is PowerPoint in the cloud, but email gated. So you have to enter your email and then you get all types of information. So it, you use it when you are creating a pitch deck and you want to send it to investors, so you know who has it and uh, and who views it and how long they’ve viewed it. And it’s basically that. Um, so anyway, Card is pretty badass. That actually might be one of the highest potential businesses you have here, I think.

Steph Smith: Yeah, and I mean, he actually runs Card as a subscription business, so that’s $1 million AR and I think it’s probably way past that today. I think you’re going to like the next one though. Go to uh, this next episode.net. I think it’s actually next-episode.net. It’s the, it’s such an old site. I think the guy’s been running it for 15 years. Um, and if you just open it up, you’ll, you’ll get a sense about the UI hasn’t caught up to where we are today, but it’s amazing because this guy’s been running it for 15 years. Guess how much traffic this thing gets?

Sam Parr: I’m looking at it on SimilarWeb. This is crazy. So what is this called? So next-episode.net. What is this?

Steph Smith: Yeah. It’s a site where basically, like there’s no way I would think that a site like this would still exist, but people use it, um, that basically helps you track your TV shows and it’s a little bit of a community. So I, I think, I’ve never used it, but you know, people watch The Bachelor, they hang out on this site and they find other people who watch The Bachelor and they talk about it. Um, but it’s kind of crazy how much traffic this site gets.

Sam Parr: This is awesome. And so here’s why I know this is a big business. So if you go to SimilarWeb and you look at their traffic, the estimated monthly traffic is 3.6 million uniques a month. That’s decent, that’s not like the best, but it’s like really good, particularly for one person. But if you go to traffic source, it says that 80% is coming from direct traffic, which basically means that there’s a lot of people that are just typing in this URL and going there on a consistent basis. And if you do that, you probably can have a huge business and it looks like they have got um, a premium, which is only $2 a month. But uh, how big is this?

Steph Smith: So I don’t know exactly how big it is, but I’m pretty sure he does several million a year. He gets over 200,000 page views a month, um, and I, he’s been going at this for several years. So I know he makes enough to have left his full-time job several years ago and he’s grown a lot since then. So I’d probably say a couple mil.

Sam Parr: Wow, that’s crazy. All right, that’s a, that’s a good find. It’s just one guy, he’s the only employee?

Steph Smith: I think so. I mean, he’s, he, he probably has some staff now that he’s been growing, but I, I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have a big team.

Sam Parr: All right, what’s next?

Steph Smith: All right, Card is actually one guy. He might have contractors, but Card, C-A-R-R-D. I’ve built sites with Card. People probably recognize Card, or they’ve almost certainly been on a site built by Card. Um, and it’s built by this guy, AJ, and it’s doing $1 million a year AR. I think he actually just raised money now, so I think he’s kind of going for Did he really just raise money? I would love to invest in this.

Steph Smith: Yeah, he raised money earlier this year. He was like big in the Indie Hacker community and then I think he posted on Indie Hackers this year like, “Look, I’m, I’m going to raise money, I’m going to, you know, really go for it.” But he, it’s kind of crazy. 2.5 million sites have been built on Card. And yeah, I, he hit, I think he said like a million AR.

Sam Parr: So it’s a free platform for building simply, uh, for building simple, fully responsive one-page websites that can do anything. Um, I actually think, so there, there was this company called, um, you remember About.me?

Steph Smith: No, what is that?

Sam Parr: About.me. So go to about.me. Uh, that’s the URL. Um, you don’t remember that? You’re, I’m just a little bit older than you, which, which is like, then that few years probably makes a difference. Because about.me, when I was just getting started, was considered like the preeminent builder in this space. And they made, it, it was a one-page website where you can explain stuff about you. And it was started by this guy named Tony Conrad, I believe his name is, and he’s this cool-looking dude who uh, is also an investor now, and he sold it after only two years to AOL for like $40 million and it was bootstrapped. You see about.me, you see how it’s like basically the same thing?

Steph Smith: Yeah, it reminds me of, you’ve heard of Unsplash, right?

Sam Parr: I love Unsplash.

Steph Smith: So, or sorry, I’m not thinking of Unsplash, I’m talking about Unfold. Unfold is this app that basically for Instagrammers, it adds different, like it allows you to kind of piece together pictures for your Instagram story, but they also started these like one-pagers, um, where basically because all these Instagrammers, they’re like, “Oh, I need my link in bio.” Link in bio is also a site like that, but Unfold, um, was sold to Squarespace, I think like last year or something. I don’t know for how much though.

Sam Parr: Man, I think that these one-page website builders are actually really cool. So there’s this other business I almost invested in. I think it’s called mediakits.com or .co. I believe it’s just called Media Kit. And all they did was built a really slick website builder where you could create your media kit, kit, and send it to people. So, and uh, whether you’re the Hustle or you’re just an Instagram person, you just had this like, uh, thehustle.co/mediakit or like, you know, um, stephsmith.com/mediakit, and it was that your media kit was on there. And that sounds like not that important, but it’s kind of like Doxen. So Doxen, if you don’t know what Doxen is, Doxen is basically all it is is PowerPoint in the cloud, but email gated. So you have to enter your email and then you get all types of information. So it, you use it when you are creating a pitch deck and you want to send it to investors, so you know who has it and uh, and who views it and how long they’ve viewed it. And it’s basically that. Um, so anyway, Card is pretty badass. That actually might be one of the highest potential businesses you have here, I think.

Steph Smith: Yeah, and I mean, he actually runs Card as a subscription business, so that’s $1 million AR and I think it’s probably way past that today. I think you’re going to like the next one though. Go to uh, this next episode.net. I think it’s actually next-episode.net. It’s the, it’s such an old site. I think the guy’s been running it for 15 years. Um, and if you just open it up, you’ll, you’ll get a sense about the UI hasn’t caught up to where we are today, but it’s amazing because this guy’s been running it for 15 years. Guess how much traffic this thing gets?

Sam Parr: I’m looking at it on SimilarWeb. This is crazy. So what is this called? So next-episode.net. What is this?

Steph Smith: Yeah. It’s a site where basically, like there’s no way I would think that a site like this would still exist, but people use it, um, that basically helps you track your TV shows and it’s a little bit of a community. So I, I think, I’ve never used it, but you know, people watch The Bachelor, they hang out on this site and they find other people who watch The Bachelor and they talk about it. Um, but it’s kind of crazy how much traffic this site gets.

Sam Parr: This is awesome. And so here’s why I know this is a big business. So if you go to SimilarWeb and you look at their traffic, the estimated monthly traffic is 3.6 million uniques a month. That’s decent, that’s not like the best, but it’s like really good, particularly for one person. But if you go to traffic source, it says that 80% is coming from direct traffic, which basically means that there’s a lot of people that are just typing in this URL and going there on a consistent basis. And if you do that, you probably can have a huge business and it looks like they have got um, a premium, which is only $2 a month. But uh, how big is this?

Steph Smith: So I don’t know exactly how big it is, but I’m pretty sure he does several million a year. He gets over 200,000 page views a month, um, and I, he’s been going at this for several years. So I know he makes enough to have left his full-time job several years ago and he’s grown a lot since then. So I’d probably say a couple mil.

Sam Parr: Wow, that’s crazy. All right, that’s a, that’s a good find. It’s just one guy, he’s the only employee?

Steph Smith: I think so. I mean, he’s, he, he probably has some staff now that he’s been growing, but I, I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have a big team.

Sam Parr: All right, what’s next?

Steph Smith: All right, Card is actually one guy. He might have contractors, but Card, C-A-R-R-D. I’ve built sites with Card. People probably recognize Card, or they’ve almost certainly been on a site built by Card. Um, and it’s built by this guy, AJ, and it’s doing $1 million a year AR. I think he actually just raised money now, so I think he’s kind of going for Did he really just raise money? I would love to invest in this.

Steph Smith: Yeah, he raised money earlier this year. He was like big in the Indie Hacker community and then I think he posted on Indie Hackers this year like, “Look, I’m, I’m going to raise money, I’m going to, you know, really go for it.” But he, it’s kind of crazy. 2.5 million sites have been built on Card. And yeah, I, he hit, I think he said like a million AR.

Sam Parr: So it’s a free platform for building simply, uh, for building simple, fully responsive one-page websites that can do anything. Um, I actually think, so there, there was this company called, um, you remember About.me?

Steph Smith: No, what is that?

Sam Parr: About.me. So go to about.me. Uh, that’s the URL. Um, you don’t remember that? You’re, I’m just a little bit older than you, which, which is like, then that few years probably makes a difference. Because about.me, when I was just getting started, was considered like the preeminent builder in this space. And they made, it, it was a one-page website where you can explain stuff about you. And it was started by this guy named Tony Conrad, I believe his name is, and he’s this cool-looking dude who uh, is also an investor now, and he sold it after only two years to AOL for like $40 million and it was bootstrapped. You see about.me, you see how it’s like basically the same thing?

Steph Smith: Yeah, it reminds me of, you’ve heard of Unsplash, right?

Sam Parr: I love Unsplash.

Steph Smith: So, or sorry, I’m not thinking of Unsplash, I’m talking about Unfold. Unfold is this app that basically for Instagrammers, it adds different, like it allows you to kind of piece together pictures for your Instagram story, but they also started these like one-pagers, um, where basically because all these Instagrammers, they’re like, “Oh, I need my link in bio.” Link in bio is also a site like that, but Unfold, um, was sold to Squarespace, I think like last year or something. I don’t know for how much though.

Sam Parr: Man, I think that these one-page website builders are actually really cool. So there’s this other business I almost invested in. I think it’s called mediakits.com or .co. I believe it’s just called Media Kit. And all they did was built a really slick website builder where you could create your media kit, kit, and send it to people. So, and uh, whether you’re the Hustle or you’re just an Instagram person, you just had this like, uh, thehustle.co/mediakit or like, you know, um, stephsmith.com/mediakit, and it was that your media kit was on there. And that sounds like not that important, but it’s kind of like Doxen. So Doxen, if you don’t know what Doxen is, Doxen is basically all it is is PowerPoint in the cloud, but email gated. So you have to enter your email and then you get all types of information. So it, you use it when you are creating a pitch deck and you want to send it to investors, so you know who has it and uh, and who views it and how long they’ve viewed it. And it’s basically that. Um, so anyway, Card is pretty badass. That actually might be one of the highest potential businesses you have here, I think.

Steph Smith: Yeah, and I mean, he actually runs Card as a subscription business, so that’s $1 million AR and I think it’s probably way past that today. I think you’re going to like the next one though. Go to uh, this next episode.net. I think it’s actually next-episode.net. It’s the, it’s such an old site. I think the guy’s been running it for 15 years. Um, and if you just open it up, you’ll, you’ll get a sense about the UI hasn’t caught up to where we are today, but it’s amazing because this guy’s been running it for 15 years. Guess how much traffic this thing gets?

Sam Parr: I’m looking at it on SimilarWeb. This is crazy. So what is this called? So next-episode.net. What is this?

Steph Smith: Yeah. It’s a site where basically, like there’s no way I would think that a site like this would still exist, but people use it, um, that basically helps you track your TV shows and it’s a little bit of a community. So I, I think, I’ve never used it, but you know, people watch The Bachelor, they hang out on this site and they find other people who watch The Bachelor and they talk about it. Um, but it’s kind of crazy how much traffic this site gets.

Sam Parr: This is awesome. And so here’s why I know this is a big business. So if you go to SimilarWeb and you look at their traffic, the estimated monthly traffic is 3.6 million uniques a month. That’s decent, that’s not like the best, but it’s like really good, particularly for one person. But if you go to traffic source, it says that 80% is coming from direct traffic, which basically means that there’s a lot of people that are just typing in this URL and going there on a consistent basis. And if you do that, you probably can have a huge business and it looks like they have got um, a premium, which is only $2 a month. But uh, how big is this?

Steph Smith: So I don’t know exactly how big it is, but I’m pretty sure he does several million a year. He gets over 200,000 page views a month, um, and I, he’s been going at this for several years. So I know he makes enough to have left his full-time job several years ago and he’s grown a lot since then. So I’d probably say a couple mil.

Sam Parr: Wow, that’s crazy. All right, that’s a, that’s a good find. It’s just one guy, he’s the only employee?

Steph Smith: I think so. I mean, he’s, he, he probably has some staff now that he’s been growing, but I, I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have a big team.

Sam Parr: All right, what’s next?

Steph Smith: All right, Card is actually one guy. He might have contractors, but Card, C-A-R-R-D. I’ve built sites with Card. People probably recognize Card, or they’ve almost certainly been on a site built by Card. Um, and it’s built by this guy, AJ, and it’s doing $1 million a year AR. I think he actually just raised money now, so I think he’s kind of going for Did he really just raise money? I would love to invest in this.

Steph Smith: Yeah, he raised money earlier this year. He was like big in the Indie Hacker community and then I think he posted on Indie Hackers this year like, “Look, I’m, I’m going to raise money, I’m going to, you know, really go for it.” But he, it’s kind of crazy. 2.5 million sites have been built on Card. And yeah, I, he hit, I think he said like a million AR.

Sam Parr: So it’s a free platform for building simply, uh, for building simple, fully responsive one-page websites that can do anything. Um, I actually think, so there, there was this company called, um, you remember About.me?

Steph Smith: No, what is that?

Sam Parr: About.me. So go to about.me. Uh, that’s the URL. Um, you don’t remember that? You’re, I’m just a little bit older than you, which, which is like, then that few years probably makes a difference. Because about.me, when I was just getting started, was considered like the preeminent builder in this space. And they made, it, it was a one-page website where you can explain stuff about you. And it was started by this guy named Tony Conrad, I believe his name is, and he’s this cool-looking dude who uh, is also an investor now, and he sold it after only two years to AOL for like $40 million and it was bootstrapped. You see about.me, you see how it’s like basically the same thing?

Steph Smith: Yeah, it reminds me of, you’ve heard of Unsplash, right?

Sam Parr: I love Unsplash.

Steph Smith: So, or sorry, I’m not thinking of Unsplash, I’m talking about Unfold. Unfold is this app that basically for Instagrammers, it adds different, like it allows you to kind of piece together pictures for your Instagram story, but they also started these like one-pagers, um, where basically because all these Instagrammers, they’re like, “Oh, I need my link in bio.” Link in bio is also a site like that, but Unfold, um, was sold to Squarespace, I think like last year or something. I don’t know for how much though.

Sam Parr: Man, I think that these one-page website builders are actually really cool. So there’s this other business I almost invested in. I think it’s called mediakits.com or .co. I believe it’s just called Media Kit. And all they did was built a really slick website builder where you could create your media kit, kit, and send it to people. So, and uh, whether you’re the Hustle or you’re just an Instagram person, you just had this like, uh, thehustle.co/mediakit or like, you know, um, stephsmith.com/mediakit, and it was that your media kit was on there. And that sounds like not that important, but it’s kind of like Doxen. So Doxen, if you don’t know what Doxen is, Doxen is basically all it is is PowerPoint in the cloud, but email gated. So you have to enter your email and then you get all types of information. So it, you use it when you are creating a pitch deck and you want to send it to investors, so you know who has it and uh, and who views it and how long they’ve viewed it. And it’s basically that. Um, so anyway, Card is pretty badass. That actually might be one of the highest potential businesses you have here, I think.

Steph Smith: Yeah, and I mean, he actually runs Card as a subscription business, so that’s $1 million AR and I think it’s probably way past that today. I think you’re going to like the next one though. Go to uh, this next episode.net. I think it’s actually next-episode.net. It’s the, it’s such an old site. I think the guy’s been running it for 15 years. Um, and if you just open it up, you’ll, you’ll get a sense about the UI hasn’t caught up to where we are today, but it’s amazing because this guy’s been running it for 15 years. Guess how much traffic this thing gets?

Sam Parr: I’m looking at it on SimilarWeb. This is crazy. So what is this called? So next-episode.net. What is this?

Steph Smith: Yeah. It’s a site where basically, like there’s no way I would think that a site like this would still exist, but people use it, um, that basically helps you track your TV shows and it’s a little bit of a community. So I, I think, I’ve never used it, but you know, people watch The Bachelor, they hang out on this site and they find other people who watch The Bachelor and they talk about it. Um, but it’s kind of crazy how much traffic this site gets.

Sam Parr: This is awesome. And so here’s why I know this is a big business. So if you go to SimilarWeb and you look at their traffic, the estimated monthly traffic is 3.6 million uniques a month. That’s decent, that’s not like the best, but it’s like really good, particularly for one person. But if you go to traffic source, it says that 80% is coming from direct traffic, which basically means that there’s a lot of people that are just typing in this URL and going there on a consistent basis. And if you do that, you probably can have a huge business and it looks like they have got um, a premium, which is only $2 a month. But uh, how big is this?

Steph Smith: So I don’t know exactly how big it is, but I’m pretty sure he does several million a year. He gets over 200,000 page views a month, um, and I, he’s been going at this for several years. So I know he makes enough to have left his full-time job several years ago and he’s grown a lot since then. So I’d probably say a couple mil.

Sam Parr: Wow, that’s crazy. All right, that’s a, that’s a good find. It’s just one guy, he’s the only employee?

Steph Smith: I think so. I mean, he’s, he, he probably has some staff now that he’s been growing, but I, I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have a big team.

Sam Parr: All right, what’s next?

Steph Smith: All right, Card is actually one guy. He might have contractors, but Card, C-A-R-R-D. I’ve built sites with Card. People probably recognize Card, or they’ve almost certainly been on a site built by Card. Um, and it’s built by this guy, AJ, and it’s doing $1 million a year AR. I think he actually just raised money now, so I think he’s kind of going for Did he really just raise money? I would love to invest in this.

Steph Smith: Yeah, he raised money earlier this year. He was like big in the Indie Hacker community and then I think he posted on Indie Hackers this year like, “Look, I’m, I’m going to raise money, I’m going to, you know, really go for it.” But he, it’s kind of crazy. 2.5 million sites have been built on Card. And yeah, I, he hit, I think he said like a million AR.

Sam Parr: So it’s a free platform for building simply, uh, for building simple, fully responsive one-page websites that can do anything. Um, I actually think, so there, there was this company called, um, you remember About.me?

Steph Smith: No, what is that?

Sam Parr: About.me. So go to about.me. Uh, that’s the URL. Um, you don’t remember that? You’re, I’m just a little bit older than you, which, which is like, then that few years probably makes a difference. Because about.me, when I was just getting started, was considered like the preeminent builder in this space. And they made, it, it was a one-page website where you can explain stuff about you. And it was started by this guy named Tony Conrad, I believe his name is, and he’s this cool-looking dude who uh, is also an investor now, and he sold it after only two years to AOL for like $40 million and it was bootstrapped. You see about.me, you see how it’s like basically the same thing?

Steph Smith: Yeah, it reminds me of, you’ve heard of Unsplash, right?

Sam Parr: I love Unsplash.

Steph Smith: So, or sorry, I’m not thinking of Unsplash, I’m talking about Unfold. Unfold is this app that basically for Instagrammers, it adds different, like it allows you to kind of piece together pictures for your Instagram story, but they also started these like one-pagers, um, where basically because all these Instagrammers, they’re like, “Oh, I need my link in bio.” Link in bio is also a site like that, but Unfold, um, was sold to Squarespace, I think like last year or something. I don’t know for how much though.

Sam Parr: Man, I think that these one-page website builders are actually really cool. So there’s this other business I almost invested in. I think it’s called mediakits.com or .co. I believe it’s just called Media Kit. And all they did was built a really slick website builder where you could create your media kit, kit, and send it to people. So, and uh, whether you’re the Hustle or you’re just an Instagram person, you just had this like, uh, thehustle.co/mediakit or like, you know, um, stephsmith.com/mediakit, and it was that your media kit was on there. And that sounds like not that important, but it’s kind of like Doxen. So Doxen, if you don’t know what Doxen is, Doxen is basically all it is is PowerPoint in the cloud, but email gated. So you have to enter your email and then you get all types of information. So it, you use it when you are creating a pitch deck and you want to send it to investors, so you know who has it and uh, and who views it and how long they’ve viewed it. And it’s basically that. Um, so anyway, Card is pretty badass. That actually might be one of the highest potential businesses you have here, I think.

Steph Smith: Yeah, and I mean, he actually runs Card as a subscription business, so that’s $1 million AR and I think it’s probably way past that today. I think you’re going to like the next one though. Go to uh, this next episode.net. I think it’s actually next-episode.net. It’s the, it’s such an old site. I think the guy’s been running it for 15 years. Um, and if you just open it up, you’ll, you’ll get a sense about the UI hasn’t caught up to where we are today, but it’s amazing because this guy’s been running it for 15 years. Guess how much traffic this thing gets?

Sam Parr: I’m looking at it on SimilarWeb. This is crazy. So what is this called? So next-episode.net. What is this?

Steph Smith: Yeah. It’s a site where basically, like there’s no way I would think that a site like this would still exist, but people use it, um, that basically helps you track your TV shows and it’s a little bit of a community. So I, I think, I’ve never used it, but you know, people watch The Bachelor, they hang out on this site and they find other people who watch The Bachelor and they talk about it. Um, but it’s kind of crazy how much traffic this site gets.

Sam Parr: This is awesome. And so here’s why I know this is a big business. So if you go to SimilarWeb and you look at their traffic, the estimated monthly traffic is 3.6 million uniques a month. That’s decent, that’s not like the best, but it’s like really good, particularly for one person. But if you go to traffic source, it says that 80% is coming from direct traffic, which basically means that there’s a lot of people that are just typing in this URL and going there on a consistent basis. And if you do that, you probably can have a huge business and it looks like they have got um, a premium, which is only $2 a month. But uh, how big is this?

Steph Smith: So I don’t know exactly how big it is, but I’m pretty sure he does several million a year. He gets over 200,000 page views a month, um, and I, he’s been going at this for several years. So I know he makes enough to have left his full-time job several years ago and he’s grown a lot since then. So I’d probably say a couple mil.

Sam Parr: Wow, that’s crazy. All right, that’s a, that’s a good find. It’s just one guy, he’s the only employee?

Steph Smith: I think so. I mean, he’s, he, he probably has some staff now that he’s been growing, but I, I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have a big team.

Sam Parr: All right, what’s next?

Steph Smith: All right, Card is actually one guy. He might have contractors, but Card, C-A-R-R-D. I’ve built sites with Card. People probably recognize Card, or they’ve almost certainly been on a site built by Card. Um, and it’s built by this guy, AJ, and it’s doing $1 million a year AR. I think he actually just raised money now, so I think he’s kind of going for Did he really just raise money? I would love to invest in this.

Steph Smith: Yeah, he raised money earlier this year. He was like big in the Indie Hacker community and then I think he posted on Indie Hackers this year like, “Look, I’m, I’m going to raise money, I’m going to, you know, really go for it.” But he, it’s kind of crazy. 2.5 million sites have been built on Card. And yeah, I, he hit, I think he said like a million AR.

Sam Parr: So it’s a free platform for building simply, uh, for building simple, fully responsive one-page websites that can do anything. Um, I actually think, so there, there was this company called, um, you remember About.me?

Steph Smith: No, what is that?

Sam Parr: About.me. So go to about.me. Uh, that’s the URL. Um, you don’t remember that? You’re, I’m just a little bit older than you, which, which is like, then that few years probably makes a difference. Because about.me, when I was just getting started, was considered like the preeminent builder in this space. And they made, it, it was a one-page website where you can explain stuff about you. And it was started by this guy named Tony Conrad, I believe his name is, and he’s this cool-looking dude who uh, is also an investor now, and he sold it after only two years to AOL for like $40 million and it was bootstrapped. You see about.me, you see how it’s like basically the same thing?

Steph Smith: Yeah, it reminds me of, you’ve heard of Unsplash, right?

Sam Parr: I love Unsplash.

Steph Smith: So, or sorry, I’m not thinking of Unsplash, I’m talking about Unfold. Unfold is this app that basically for Instagrammers, it adds different, like it allows you to kind of piece together pictures for your Instagram story, but they also started these like one-pagers, um, where basically because all these Instagrammers, they’re like, “Oh, I need my link in bio.” Link in bio is also a site like that, but Unfold, um, was sold to Squarespace, I think like last year or something. I don’t know for how much though.

Sam Parr: Man, I think that these one-page website builders are actually really cool. So there’s this other business I almost invested in. I think it’s called mediakits.com or .co. I believe it’s just called Media Kit. And all they did was built a really slick website builder where you could create your media kit, kit, and send it to people. So, and uh, whether you’re the Hustle or you’re just an Instagram person, you just had this like, uh, thehustle.co/mediakit or like, you know, um, stephsmith.com/mediakit, and it was that your media kit was on there. And that sounds like not that important, but it’s kind of like Doxen. So Doxen, if you don’t know what Doxen is, Doxen is basically all it is is PowerPoint in the cloud, but email gated. So you have to enter your email and then you get all types of information. So it, you use it when you are creating a pitch deck and you want to send it to investors, so you know who has it and uh, and who views it and how long they’ve viewed it. And it’s basically that. Um, so anyway, Card is pretty badass. That actually might be one of the highest potential businesses you have here, I think.

Steph Smith: Yeah, and I mean, he actually runs Card as a subscription business, so that’s $1 million AR and I think it’s probably way past that today. I think you’re going to like the next one though. Go to uh, this next episode.net. I think it’s actually next-episode.net. It’s the, it’s such an old site. I think the guy’s been running it for 15 years. Um, and if you just open it up, you’ll, you’ll get a sense about the UI hasn’t caught up to where we are today, but it’s amazing because this guy’s been running it for 15 years. Guess how much traffic this thing gets?

Sam Parr: I’m looking at it on SimilarWeb. This is crazy. So what is this called? So next-episode.net. What is this?

Steph Smith: Yeah. It’s a site where basically, like there’s no way I would think that a site like this would still exist, but people use it, um, that basically helps you track your TV shows and it’s a little bit of a community. So I, I think, I’ve never used it, but you know, people watch The Bachelor, they hang out on this site and they find other people who watch The Bachelor and they talk about it. Um, but it’s kind of crazy how much traffic this site gets.

Sam Parr: This is awesome. And so here’s why I know this is a big business. So if you go to SimilarWeb and you look at their traffic, the estimated monthly traffic is 3.6 million uniques a month. That’s decent, that’s not like the best, but it’s like really good, particularly for one person. But if you go to traffic source, it says that 80% is coming from direct traffic, which basically means that there’s a lot of people that are just typing in this URL and going there on a consistent basis. And if you do that, you probably can have a huge business and it looks like they have got um, a premium, which is only $2 a month. But uh, how big is this?

Steph Smith: So I don’t know exactly how big it is, but I’m pretty sure he does several million a year. He gets over 200,000 page views a month, um, and I, he’s been going at this for several years. So I know he makes enough to have left his full-time job several years ago and he’s grown a lot since then. So I’d probably say a couple mil.

Sam Parr: Wow, that’s crazy. All right, that’s a, that’s a good find. It’s just one guy, he’s the only employee?

Steph Smith: I think so. I mean, he’s, he, he probably has some staff now that he’s been growing, but I, I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have a big team.

Sam Parr: All right, what’s next?

Steph Smith: All right, Card is actually one guy. He might have contractors, but Card, C-A-R-R-D. I’ve built sites with Card. People probably recognize Card, or they’ve almost certainly been on a site built by Card. Um, and it’s built by this guy, AJ, and it’s doing $1 million a year AR. I think he actually just raised money now, so I think he’s kind of going for Did he really just raise money? I would love to invest in this.

Steph Smith: Yeah, he raised money earlier this year. He was like big in the Indie Hacker community and then I think he posted on Indie Hackers this year like, “Look, I’m, I’m going to raise money, I’m going to, you know, really go for it.” But he, it’s kind of crazy. 2.5 million sites have been built on Card. And yeah, I, he hit, I think he said like a million AR.

Sam Parr: So it’s a free platform for building simply, uh, for building simple, fully responsive one-page websites that can do anything. Um, I actually think, so there, there was this company called, um, you remember About.me?

Steph Smith: No, what is that?

Sam Parr: About.me. So go to about.me. Uh, that’s the URL. Um, you don’t remember that? You’re, I’m just a little bit older than you, which, which is like, then that few years probably makes a difference. Because about.me, when I was just getting started, was considered like the preeminent builder in this space. And they made, it, it was a one-page website where you can explain stuff about you. And it was started by this guy named Tony Conrad, I believe his name is, and he’s this cool-looking dude who uh, is also an investor now, and he sold it after only two years to AOL for like $40 million and it was bootstrapped. You see about.me, you see how it’s like basically the same thing?

Steph Smith: Yeah, it reminds me of, you’ve heard of Unsplash, right?

Sam Parr: I love Unsplash.

Steph Smith: So, or sorry, I’m not thinking of Unsplash, I’m talking about Unfold. Unfold is this app that basically for Instagrammers, it adds different, like it allows you to kind of piece together pictures for your Instagram story, but they also started these like one-pagers, um, where basically because all these Instagrammers, they’re like, “Oh, I need my link in bio.” Link in bio is also a site like that, but Unfold, um, was sold to Squarespace, I think like last year or something. I don’t know for how much though.

Sam Parr: Man, I think that these one-page website builders are actually really cool. So there’s this other business I almost invested in. I think it’s called mediakits.com or .co. I believe it’s just called Media Kit. And all they did was built a really slick website builder where you could create your media kit, kit, and send it to people. So, and uh, whether you’re the Hustle or you’re just an Instagram person, you just had this like, uh, thehustle.co/mediakit or like, you know, um, stephsmith.com/mediakit, and it was that your media kit was on there. And that sounds like not that important, but it’s kind of like Doxen. So Doxen, if you don’t know what Doxen is, Doxen is basically all it is is PowerPoint in the cloud, but email gated. So you have to enter your email and then you get all types of information. So it, you use it when you are creating a pitch deck and you want to send it to investors, so you know who has it and uh, and who views it and how long they’ve viewed it. And it’s basically that. Um, so anyway, Card is pretty badass. That actually might be one of the highest potential businesses you have here, I think.

Steph Smith: Yeah, and I mean, he actually runs Card as a subscription business, so that’s $1 million AR and I think it’s probably way past that today. I think you’re going to like the next one though. Go to uh, this next episode.net. I think it’s actually next-episode.net. It’s the, it’s such an old site. I think the guy’s been running it for 15 years. Um, and if you just open it up, you’ll, you’ll get a sense about the UI hasn’t caught up to where we are today, but it’s amazing because this guy’s been running it for 15 years. Guess how much traffic this thing gets?

Sam Parr: I’m looking at it on SimilarWeb. This is crazy. So what is this called? So next-episode.net. What is this?

Steph Smith: Yeah. It’s a site where basically, like there’s no way I would think that a site like this would still exist, but people use it, um, that basically helps you track your TV shows and it’s a little bit of a community. So I, I think, I’ve never used it, but you know, people watch The Bachelor, they hang out on this site and they find other people who watch The Bachelor and they talk about it. Um, but it’s kind of crazy how much traffic this site gets.

Sam Parr: This is awesome. And so here’s why I know this is a big business. So if you go to SimilarWeb and you look at their traffic, the estimated monthly traffic is 3.6 million uniques a month. That’s decent, that’s not like the best, but it’s like really good, particularly for one person. But if you go to traffic source, it says that 80% is coming from direct traffic, which basically means that there’s a lot of