This episode of the My First Million podcast features Shaan Puri discussing the recent $52 million buyout of his company, Support Shepherd, and the strategic decisions that led to its growth. Shaan and Sam Parr explore the concept of “audience co-founders,” the importance of investing in one’s P&L, and the “curse of familiar riches” when managing wealth.
Topics: Entrepreneurship, Startups, Business Strategy, Wealth Management, Audience Co-founders, Outsourcing, P&L Management
The Support Shepherd Buyout [00:00]
Shaan Puri: Okay, so the news is this. If you’ve been listening to this podcast, you know that Shepherd is a business that I’m a part owner in. I’ve been talking about it on the podcast, and it’s a great business. And last week, news broke that there was a private buyout of a majority stake in the company for $52 million, at a $52 million valuation. It was done by Nick Huber. I had the opportunity to sell my shares in that. I decided not to. Not a single share. I’m holding every single share. So today, we’re going to talk about, I guess we’ll tell the story of, you know, how Shepherd even grew in four years to be a $52 million company, how I ended up getting involved with it, becoming an owner in the business, and why one of the owners in the business did this buyout, how they they took $29 million and bought the majority controlling stake in the company. So that’s the news. Now, here’s the backstory.
Interviewing Shaan [00:54]
Sam Parr: All right, Sean. Uh, last week, you guys had a big announcement. So, you and Nick bought Shepherd, and that’s amazing. And I didn’t I didn’t do it. Nick did it, not me.
Shaan Puri: Yeah, but you were part of it. You were part of it. You’re you’re you’re one of the partners. And I guess maybe I’m going to interview you at least for this first segment because I want to learn all about it. I think it’s amazing what Nick has done. So let’s start with the beginning. Explain what Shepherd is and then I guess we’ll start in like 2020 when it started and explaining like how it grew and what happened last week.
The Origin of Support Shepherd [01:25]
Shaan Puri: Yeah, so there’s a guy named Marshall Haas who was an entrepreneur, done a bunch of different things. I think he owns like a hotel in St. Louis. He had a bunch of e-commerce companies, some goofy one like some emoji something something. Then he had Peel, which was like a phone, uh, phone case type of like a thin phone case. So he was in e-commerce, and one of the common things with e-commerce is, e-commerce is like a real business, but it’s like a lemonade stand business. Every margins matter. And so what a lot of e-commerce operators do, and I did this too with my e-commerce brand, I think 60% of our staff is is offshore, is because margins matter, you have to figure out a certain specific problem, which is how do I get great talent at without paying the full cost, without paying the full cost of hiring Stanford grads and Harvard grads or or, you know, even just a normal median worker in the States. And so a lot of us, we go to talent hotbeds like Latin America, where you find great programmers or data analysts, or the Philippines where you can find a great customer support team that will, um, you know, do the job at a fraction of the cost. Usually about five times less than it costs in the States. So five times less is like pretty massive. So Marshall’s running Peel, he starts hiring more and more people overseas, and he decides to start a company called Support Shepherd, which at the time was ridiculous. I saw I’m friends with Marshall on Facebook. I’ve been friends with Marshall since 16 or or 14. When he told me he was doing this, I was like, this is silly. But then I saw the branding. The website pretty much looked the way it does now from the beginning.
The “Audience Co-founder” Concept [02:52]
Shaan Puri: Well, he uses your favorite color of green as well. And so and so he he creates this brand and you’re right, like uh the idea of hiring talent overseas is not new. This has been going on for a long time. I remember my dad once bought this book called The World is Flat, and I was a little kid and I read this book and it was all about globalization of talent. Uh and it was something that big companies were doing, but more and more small companies have been doing this, startups uh and the like, especially for specific roles, right? So anyways, he starts this company and it starts doing decently well. He’s promoted on Twitter and starts to grow. So now Nick comes along.
Sam Parr: Nick Huber from Sweaty Startup.
Shaan Puri: Exactly. Nick’s got a storage company, he’s in the real estate space, and what people don’t know is Nick has certain companies like um he has a cost segregation business. Cost seg is basically when you buy a property, you do a cost seg study and it allows you to accelerate your depreciation. So instead of depreciating something over 30 years, you might be able to accelerate the schedule to seven years. It saves you a bunch of money in year one. So it’s well worth the it’s well worth the trade to go pay for a cost seg study in order to save the money. So most people who do a cost seg, they hire US talent. What he does, all of his talent’s like in Colombia. They do it on an iPad. You like walk around with an iPad, right?
Sam Parr: I’ll explain how it works. So the way it works is and I’m far from an expert. The way that I understand it is basically typically real estate has something like a 30-year lifespan, but they came in and said, look, the rules actually say that your windows can depreciate in 10 years, your roof is actually only 15 years. So what I need you to do is do a video tour with one of our people on the phone and I have a a checklist of things I need you to show me in the home and you got to walk through and spend about 30 minutes just walking through the house. And I did that and the person was, I knew he was I mean, he he spoke perfect English, but I thought he was overseas and I was like, I actually don’t know where you are. I for some reason I thought it was in Europe. I had no idea where he was. And there was a guy on the other line as I’m like looking through the house and he’s marking down what type of windows I have and things like that.
The Power of Audience Co-founders [04:44]
Shaan Puri: Right. And so pretty crazy. That used to be something you somebody walks on foot through the building and has a clipboard with a piece of paper. And now you’ve got low-cost talent in Colombia that are getting it done for you, right? So anyways, he builds that business. So he’s using Shepherd a lot. So he ends up going to Marshall and uh cuts an affiliate deal. I think initially it was an affiliate deal, which was just, hey, uh if I send you traffic, if I tell people, hey, I’m using Shepherd, it’s great, give me a cut of the fees that you that you generate, the revenue that you generate. Marshall says yes. Nick starts sending traffic. And along the way, Nick goes back and he says, you know what, affiliate’s great, but my beak’s not wet enough. I need a little more skin in the game. So he cuts a deal with Marshall to end up becoming a part owner of the business. Business continues to grow. Last year, almost a year to the day, I become a partner in the business. I approach Marshall, I say, hey, same same story. I’m a power user of the product. I have a big audience and um I think I can help grow your business. Did this all come from the place of it’d be cool to grow a company based off of your influence? I had a lesson which was invest in your P&L. And this was a lesson I learned the hard way, which was when I was running my startup studio and for six years I was trying to make a successful startup. I was trying to be successful, make money. And what I learned in the end was that a lot of the I would have made 100 times more money had I simply looked at our expenses in our P&L and just knocked on their door and said, hey, can I invest? I’m a big fan of your product. I’m an early user of this product. I really understand this product and whenever you’re raising your next round at whatever valuation, do that. Maybe I can help you out in some small way. And you know, we were I was one of the you know, first, I don’t know, 200 companies using Slack, uh Elastic Search, PagerDuty we were using early on, Figma we were using early on, like all of these like tons of them. I I don’t even know like there’s like 20 apps like this. And so I learned this lesson the hard way, which is you should always try to invest in your P&L. So you look at your expenses, you figure out which expense is meaningful, it’s a line item that you notice, but you don’t regret it. It’s an unregretted expense, meaning it was worth more than the than the cost. And so I looked at mine and I was basically like, this overseas recruiting is one because I’m getting great talent. So I went to Marshall and I said, hey, love the product. I said, I love this category too. So I said, I’m not for sure going to invest in your business, but you’re my first pick and I’m going to I I use your product, so let let’s talk. And so we uh we ended up working out a deal and it was a a a great deal for me. What actually I thought at the time was a great deal for me, it turned out to be an even better deal for Marshall. So he had a lot of uh wisdom in making that deal. Because I thought I was getting a very favorable deal, but he understood the power of the audience and he understood the power of what we could bring to the table. And he listened to MFM, he saw what we were doing on Twitter. He had know Nick had come on MFM before and mentioned it and it was like their biggest day in in a year or something like that. So he kind of had a he had enough validation to take a leap of faith. Uh but it was still to be clear, a leap of faith. So it turns out better than we expected. Like we had forecasted how much we thought we could grow the business and I try to over always under promise over deliver type of thing. So I was like, look, I think we can, you know, maybe 50%, maybe 75%. We basically grew up by 300%. So the business has basically tripled in the last year, valuation grew. And along the way, different acquisition offers came up and I went to Nick one day and I was like, hey look, there’s an acquisition offer. I think this thing still got a lot of runway to run. And actually the initial idea was, Nick, why don’t we what if we bought it? What if we raised the money and we bought this thing? So most people don’t know that. That was the initial conversation and Nick’s like, I’m I’m thinking the exact same thing. Uh let’s talk to Marshall and see. Within an hour, I’m like, too much work. Never mind. Nick, I don’t want to do this. This is too much effort for me. It’d be a huge transaction. Like he to buy this business. So what what actually ended up happening is Nick announced he said, big news, yesterday, I acquired a controlling interest in Support Shepherd for 29.7 million. So he paid $29.7 million to buy enough to become a controlling owner of the business. I think he said the valuation. I think yeah, maybe they did in a different one. 52 million was the valuation. Yeah, they said $52 million. And so, which is pretty amazing because from the time one literally one year ago, I think it was April or May that we we did the in my deal. That means the value of the company has more than tripled in a year. So, you know, just tremendous value growth, a win for everybody involved. My stake grew, Nick’s stake grew, Marshall did obviously phenomenally well. And Nick goes and he basically raises the money. And so he raises the money to to go and buy, you know, basically for 30 million bucks, he buys controlling stake in the business.
The Curse of Familiar Riches [09:32]
Sam Parr: My little crew, we we threw in a little bit. Welcome to the team, finally. Yeah, we’re we’re very, very, very small stakeholders uh amongst this thing. It was hurting me to get rich without you. I got to be honest. It kept me up at night a few days. That’s right. We we we have a very small taste of it. But okay, so and here’s what I wanted to bring up. About two or three years ago, you and I did a podcast where we said, look, there’s all these people who have created billion-dollar companies off of Instagram. They’ve done it off of YouTube. Um, they’ve done it off of Facebook. There’s not really been any breakout hits off of Twitter yet because Twitter’s audience is a bit small. Uh, but I was like, I think it’s good. I think we both said it’s great because it’s text-based, you get to know people, whatever, and there’s it’s a B2B crowd, a little bit more so. High-value crowd. Yeah, more so than the other places. And it hasn’t happened yet, but I think it is happening right now. I I think I don’t know if this is going to be a billion-dollar company, but I think the fact that Huber uh like went out and raised this money to do this, that is a big swing and it took a lot of courage for him to do that and it could our our prediction could be coming true as we speak. Very ballsy move, I got to say. Very ballsy move to do this. And I tweeted this, I go, ballsy move. I can’t wait to see how this plays out. And people thought that was a negative thing, but to me, I I literally just meant like, oh my god, I can’t wait to see how this how this ends. Like what is the story what is the story going to be? And I think it’s going to end really well. It’s not ballsy in a bad way. It’s ballsy that he took the ball in his court and he’s like trying to do this thing. And I and by the way, what I tell everyone is, I don’t want to bet against Nick. Nick is a is a really good entrepreneur and if someone can pull it off, I I have faith that he can pull it off. You know, when you watch somebody play sports, you learn a lot about them. And I played basketball with Nick Huber. He is a he’s a workhorse. He’s an incredibly physical player. He’s an incredible he comes to the pickup games with a mouth with a mouthpiece in. It’s like, bro, I don’t know how much contact you’re planning for, but it’s more than I was ready for today. And so you see you learn how he operates. Let me tell you a couple things about this. So, Nick could have been on cruise control. The guy owned self-storage facilities. Self-storage is literally a closet you lock. It’s the like the least operational thing you could possibly do is literally put your put your objects in this door and lock it forever. Like that’s all it is. I think it’s $100 million worth of self-storage units that he owns. So it’s a significant amount. My point being is he’s kind of uh financially he uh He could have been he could have been sure. He’s in a good spot. He loves to hunt, he’s got little kids, he loves to do outdoors, he loves to play sports. He could have just been chilling. Then he has a Twitter audience, so he starts he could have done affiliate deals. He started launching all these agencies. He’s like, I got an SEO agency, he’s like, I got a hiring agency, I got a um, you know, I forgot what else he has. He’s got cost seg, he’s got like seven different agencies he started. And each of those would have brought in, I don’t know, 50 to 100k a month, enough. He could have been totally chill. He chose violence. He chose to not chill. He chose to bet his entire career, put his entire network and net worth on the line basically to say, this is to take this bold bet. And you love to see it. I love to see it. I don’t think it’s going to fail. I think the even the worst case, it’s it’s a very survivable thing. I think best case is is quite huge. It could be a very big outcome for him and I think it’s so cool that he’s doing this. Yeah, yeah, it is. And like look, I thought we were taking a big bet when like when I put my name on something or Nick puts their name on something, it’s got to be good because we’re spending all this time, years building up a reputation, years building up a loyal trusted audience. At the end of the day, you got to turn over your cards. And if you don’t have if you don’t have the hand, you know, you were just bluffing the whole time and you can’t do that. Nick took it to a whole new level, which is to basically say, forget all my other shit, I’m going all in on this and I think that’s that’s really awesome. Okay, so now let me tell you the big picture take. So forget Shepherd for a second. This is part of a general idea I’ve had for a while, a couple years now, which is the idea of an audience co-founder. So when I started my first companies, I knew I needed like I myself as an entrepreneur could do part of what was needed to to succeed. To succeed, you need to build a great product, you need to say identify a gap, build a product that fills that gap, you have to have a maybe a a technical uh team in order to build the product, you need money, you need a bunch of things. And as a founder, you try to go do all the things. You try to identify the gap, you try to go raise the money, you try to go recruit a team. But it’s hard to do by yourself. And so very common in Silicon Valley is to have a a technical co-founder. And a technical co-founder is, you know, that’s the person who’s going to do the the engineering, the building, and you rely on them to do that and you say, I’m going to do the the the other components of this business. Well, now I think there’s a more and more common playbook, which is the idea of an audience co-founder. What an audience co-founder is, is you partner with somebody who has a has a cheat code in go-to-market, right? They have a advantage, they have an unfair advantage that is non-fungible, that is non um not easy to recreate yourself. It they and what they do is they essentially lower your cost of customer acquisition. Um sometimes to the point of being zero, sometimes negative, but it definitely lowers it. Which isn’t new. This this isn’t new. You know, George Foreman and then since the beginning of time, we’ve talked about celebrity partnerships of Exactly. So so they’ve evolved. And so what I that’s what I want to bring up, like the evolution of these. So for example, you got the Foreman Grill. And it used to be, you hire a celebrity, they hold your product, they smile, ding, buy this product, right? That was an endorsement. Then the then the the the audience people, they they got a little bit wiser. They said, oh, instead of just taking cash for this, I’ll take some equity too. Thank you very much. So they started taking equity too. And you’re going to put my name and face on it, then that means I’m going to have to own a piece of this. So you get the Foreman Grill, you get all of these celebrity alcohol brands. You get McGregor doing Proper Whiskey. I think McGregor owned about 15 to 20% of Proper Whiskey. You have Logan Paul and Prime. I don’t know, but I think it’s something on the order of magnitude of 20 to 30%. You’ve got Clooney doing his tequila, you got the Rock doing his tequila, you got Ryan Reynolds doing his gin. You got a bunch of people that do the the sort of celebrity alcohol brand, the celebrity cosmetics brand, right? Rihanna with Fenty Beauty. But it but each time it’s getting a little more and more tied in with the co-founder. So you go from hold up the product and ding, play the jingle, to putting my name and face on it, to actually it’s named after me. Actually, I’m going to be the one creating the media that we use to market this thing. Instead of you paying me twice a year to come to some to some commercial shoot, I’m going to be posting every day. I’m Kylie Jenner. I’m going to be posting every day on my Instagram stories about this. I’m Conor McGregor, I’m going to be reposting tons of material on this. I’m going to take a bottle to the press conference. I’m Logan Paul, I’m going to take a a you know, a bottle of Prime with me to WrestleMania when I’m uh when I’m and I’m going to use, I’m going to crush one right before I go in the ring. And so the celebrities become more and more involved. And now, what’s happening is this is transitioning out of major celebrities doing major, you know, uh consumer products to more and more it’s happening in the software space, which is more new, I would say. So you have Russell Brunson do this with ClickFunnels. You have Hormozi just bought a chunk of school and now he’s wearing a school hat and a school white beater everywhere he goes because he’s trying to promote that product. And so you see what me and Nick did with Shepherd. And you see that basically these brands that are almost private equity brands, right? So we build a consumer-facing brand and then we do private equity. And the beautiful thing is that the private equity guys don’t know anything about brand. And the brand guys don’t know anything about private equity. And if you happen to be somebody that knows about both, you have a pretty unique uh proposition in the market. And so I think we’re going to be seeing more and more of these audience co-founders where people realize that I can either just take a bet that my product will get off the ground, that I can get out of the kind of the the the muck of similar products at the subscale and try to break through and they’re going to use their cap table as a tool for to do this. And um I I’ve I narrowed it down into three things that I think you need in order to make this work. Because I think there’s going to be a lot of people that try this and they’re going to fail. And here’s I think the three essential things you need in an audience co-founder. The first, a large trusted audience. Trust being the keyword here. There’s a lot of people with an audience, but they have low trust. Meaning, if they go tell people, hey, you should go try this, you should read this book, you should try this lotion, you should show up at this event, you should watch this movie. How many people actually go do it? And I’m not going to name names, but there’s a lot of people that we know that have audiences, but they don’t have anything for trust. Or they have audiences, but their audience is broke. And so the only thing they can sell them is very cheap things for broke people, basically. And so you have to find the right trust, somebody with a trusted audience. So trust, that’s quite challenging to measure, but large is easier. So I could tell you, so our podcast, MFM, if you measure YouTube including shorts, which you could argue and I would agree with it, that shorts is nonsense, but we had something like 90 million impressions last year across the podcast. And then if I had to guess, your Twitter handle probably had another 10 to 20 a month uh million impressions. And then your newsletter, I don’t know how often you send it, you said it once a week, let’s say let’s keep a round number of 100,000. So you’re talking to tens of millions of people a month. Would you say that’s accurate? No, to be honest, no. I think the number of people is a lot less than the number of impressions. Sorry. For sure tens of millions of impressions. I don’t know how many people, maybe a million, maybe more than a million. I think I think I think we reach somewhere between half a million and a million people truthfully, right? And there’s a lot of people that will exaggerate these numbers. Truthfully, I think that’s the absolute ceiling of what we reach. But then the trusted audience is a fraction of that. But um it doesn’t matter. It’s it’s the depth of trust that matters. And this is the total mispriced asset in the market. Because the easy thing to measure is number of followers, number of views, number of uh of of impressions that something gets. A little bit better might be likes or replies. But then even better is bookmarks. Even better is how many people click the link and then the ultimate source of truth is revenue. There’s other tests that I like to think about. So another trust test is um and I talked to a guy who who’s getting millions and millions of views on shorts. And I said, um, hey, if you tweeted out tomorrow that you are um hanging out at this coffee shop in Austin. I said, hey, I’m hanging out from 10:00 to 2:00 tomorrow or 10:00 to noon, two hours, I’m hanging out. Uh stop by. How many people would show up? There are some people that would have a line out the door. And then there’s some people that nobody would show up for because they have a very fleeting transactional impression-based thing. They are not the focus of it. Maybe they’re putting up meme content or they’re putting up uh you know, like canned videos that are highly animated, but they’re not even involved in it. There’s no trust that’s being associated with them. Um another trust test, if I emailed my list tomorrow and I said, tomorrow, I’m putting out something that I’ve been working really hard on that I it’s fucking good. Trust me. And I said, it’s uh it’ll be available at 5:00 a.m. tomorrow and it’s going to be available to the first thousand people that that try it. That’s it. How many people would set their alarm? Right. Right? There are certain companies and products you set your alarm for. Apple gets people to set their alarm and come camp out to get their new product. It’s trust at the end of the day, right? That’s the that’s the measurable value of a brand is trust. And so I think that’s the the number one variable. Number two, product to audience fit. So basically, uh if I came on here and I started telling you about cologne, it’s not going to work. It’s just the wrong product for the wrong audience. Uh it’s not what my audience wants, it’s not what they trust me on, it’s not the right price point given the the uh size of my audience, right? I sell products that are worth tens of thousands each. Logan Paul sells products that are worth $4 each, but he’s got a much bigger audience. You got to find an equation that works. So product audience fit. A great example was the episode we did with Danny Austin on this podcast. Danny Austin was a woman who was she was uh she had struggled with postpartum, I think postpartum hair loss and was really insecure about her hair. She wore wigs for like a year, then she took the wig off and told her her Instagram audience like, this is what I’ve been going through. I feel a little bit silly, I felt insecure about it, but I’m trying some things, let’s see what works. And eventually ends up creating her own line of hair care called Divi, which is a a product to cure this pain point that she authentically had, that many people in her audience authentically had and trusted her for it. And so the highest highest version of product audience fit is when you genuinely authentically experience a problem and can tell a story about it. And that story resonates with your audience because they also have that problem and they believe your story. Third one, content creativity. So, how good is this person at creating an ongoing stream of content that plugs the product? Dude, that’s shockingly hard by the way. Very hard to do. It’s very hard to do. I’m good at it. I think you’re good at it. I think Nick is exceptionally good at it as well. Nick is fantastic at it. I he posts probably, I think 100 times a week on Twitter, I looked it up and he’s good. He makes hits. And you see this everywhere. So, uh when Logan Paul and and KSI launched Prime, they did a photo shoot. They did the photo shoot of them drinking and then there’s this viral image, this this image that goes super viral and it’s basically it’s Logan Paul drinking Prime and KSI drinking Prime, but KSI was kind of like bent down on one knee and then somebody photoshopped them together so it kind of looked like KSI was, you know, like going down on on Logan Paul and then they printed a cardboard cutout of that and they put it in the aisle of I forget Walmart or wherever they were launching. So they the the news was we’re launching in Walmart. And many okay, what does a creator do normally? Hey guys, just I’m so excited. Uh can’t believe it. We launched in Walmart. Good for me. Um you know, go go check it out. Please, go buy our product from Walmart. Right? Well, Logan Paul does a smarter about is he knows how to go viral around his product. He knows that it’s not about patting yourself on the back. It’s not about a generic announcement that doesn’t mean anything to the audience. He gave them a reason to share the news, which was put put him and KSI in a compromising situation, made a joke out of it and then that image goes and gets 100 million views, right? And it’s the same story, but he knew how to package it to go viral. He’ll also do things like um he’ll create content that’ll be um I’m going to try to make this drink using these three flavors of flavors of Prime. So it’s like it’s kind of like those will it blend type of commercials, but he’s using his product. You know, for us, we will do like me and Nick, we would do um a workshop where we were we did a like a delegation workshop. So I was like, look, Is that what most people call those things? I mean, haters will call them webinars. Oh yeah. But they’re called haters. You call it a webinar, I call you a hater. I knew it was a W word. I couldn’t think of it. It was a workshop, something like that. Yeah. It’s on the web. I I forget. It’s kind of like a seminar. Well, we would do these things and they would drive so much business for the for the business. And so we would we would come up with what is a value add thing we could do that delivers so much value in 45 minutes and at the end we just say, by the way, if you want to do this, Shepherd’s a great tool. But you’ve delivered so much goodwill and so much value that you can you can do that. Anyways, there’s a whole bunch of stuff around content creativity. How do you on an ongoing basis uh uh create native content that is going to continue to bring the brand front and center or or do it. We created the thrill of the shill, for example, to give ourselves an excuse to talk about our products. And so there are creators that are better at that and there are creators that are worse at that. We’re, you know, we’re good, but there are people who are incredible at it. Who do you think is the best? Like who do you look to besides uh some of maybe some of the non-popular ones? Is there any non-popular ones you look at and you’re like, that’s really great? There’s a guy on Twitch named Dr. Disrespect that I first noticed is incredible at this. And I noticed it because majority of Twitch streamers get a ton of blowback if they ever mention a product, a service, the chat immediately, sell out, sell out, sell out. Oh my god, whatever. Dr. Disrespect created a brand that almost allowed for it and he created so much humor and content. It’s like you don’t want to be in the middle. So either you just never sell out or you try to try to sell product, but you’re trying not to sell out, you’re sort of hedging and the audience can sniff that out a second and they will bounce on you. Or you go full. You go full sell out. At Twitch we even did this when Amazon wanted Twitch the company to promote Prime Day. It was like, oh, how are we going to do this? Our our community is very sensitive to us promoting something, especially promoting a big corp, mega corp like Amazon. And so they created a campaign called Twitch sells out. And they made a fake Twitch sells out. And that was the whole campaign was, well today, Twitch sells out. And then and then they basically like they they leaned into it. Dr. Disrespect would do this. He he would do a promo promo with Old Spice and then he would create like a full like a full like content series around this thing around Old Spice and he would do it in such a way that by the end of it, the whole chat was looking forward to the next Old Spice like if I if I already called it like the Champions Club or something like that. He would create all these little things around it because he was a total character. He knew how to do it. So he was I could see how much money he was making. He was making way more money per viewer than the average Twitch streamer because he knew how to monetize that audience. Do you remember we had Justin Mares come on and he told us about his new company called is it True Med or True Medicine? True Med? Yeah, True Med. So True Med. Um I how do you explain it? Is it HSA spending? So it’s like a a kind of a boring topic, but basically like you could spend your insurance money. Anyway, his co-founder is this guy named Kaylee Means. And Kaylee Means is uh I guess he’s a I think he’s a doctor or a former doctor, but he’s like obsessed with metabolic health. And I followed him on Twitter and he is indoctrinating me on like healthy eating. I I bookmarked his thing yesterday. Same. It was like the four points, four things like, you know, basically he’s like, America has like, you know, a 20% obesity rate or something like that in young kids. And like other countries have 4%. Here’s the four things we should do immediate effective immediately to turn this around. And I was like, sir, yes, sir, you know, for president. I’ve never met this guy, but goddamn, he’s convincing. He is so convincing. And so his company, and he does it in such a good way because his company is a very specific thing, HSA spending and you can buy like healthy stuff. I think you can buy like an eight sleep mattress or whatever using like your insurance, something something like that. But anyway, he’ll he his whole crusade is on like processed foods and over and being overweight and things like that. And so he’s like uh a renegade and a champion for like healthiness and it just so happens I have this thing that I that you could actually use to like buy some of these things. So like he tweeted out the other day, he’s like, America’s super obese, here’s four points. Like, you shouldn’t be able to use um uh food stamps on soda or uh I uh uh pharmaceutical companies should not be allowed to advertise on TV. And he had like two or three more things and I get obsessed with it and he started to change my opinion. And then I’m slowly starting to think about True Med, his company. Wait, we should have him come on by the way, because I’ve seen him now do a couple of these rants and each time I am so convinced. I’m so convinced that I actually scheduled time on my calendar to look up opposing evidence. Because I’m like, before I just fully bathe in this Kool-Aid, I need to hedge myself. I need to create some firewall where I go see if this guy’s full of shit because he is very convincing. He’s very convincing. And this is a really good example. I asked you for a non-popular example. I guess I had one. Kaylee Means is a non-popular example of a well, I guess he’s I mean, he’s not like mainstream popular, but he’s somewhat popular in our little circle of of a B2B product and he is selling it wonderfully. Absolutely. Yeah. I think it’s uh I think it’s amazing. Uh there’s a bunch of these by the way, Liver King, Nick Bear, like a lot of guys do this. And I think the the interesting thing now is it used to be celebrities hold up the product and endorse it, or it would be the celebrity creates the company themselves. What I’m finding now is this interesting new new variant of this, the new strain, which is company that already exists finds an audience co-founder to accelerate growth. And by the way, if you’re trying to do this, come to me. I want to do this again. I I want to do this one more time. The Shepherd thing went so well. Uh and I I tweeted this out and I go, if you have a cash flow product that is genuinely a great product, like it has to be a great product, otherwise I’m not going to put my name on it. Um and you are bootstrapped, you are not on the venture path, hit me up, Sean at Sean.com. I want to do this one more time. You have this thing on here about the curse of family riches, and I want to talk about that. But before we talk about that, I want to tell you a story about someone I spoke with recently. So there’s this company called Simple Modern. Have you heard of Simple Modern? Of course. So Simple Modern is a website that sells basically mugs, but I think they sell a ton of stuff. So like Stanley mug competitors, Tumblers, they sell a ton of stuff. I talked to him the other day and he gave me his annual revenue since they started the business along with the profit from some of the recent years and he said I could talk about it. And so I listed it here in this document. So When people give you their revenue, do you just go and you just like evil laugh or what do you do? Well, whenever I talk to people, I’m like, hey, before we even have a conversation, just so you know, I’m not saying any of this. Um and then I’ll ask In our 20s, we try to get girls numbers. In our 30s, we try to get guys numbers. Yeah, yeah. I want to know people’s uh people’s income. But then at the end of the conversation, I was like, dude, this is so fascinating. Can I share this or not? And he was like, yeah, dude, I don’t care. You can share it. And so anyway, he started this company in 2015. In 2017, they had 10 million in revenue. 18, they had 20 million. They grew it and I’ll I’ll skip a few years. Up in 21, they uh got 80 million, 2022, 95 million, 23, this most recent year, they did 180. This year they’re expected to do $225 million selling these tumblers. It’s mostly tumblers. And he started the company with like $200,000 in his 30s. And so he’s a bootstrap company. He owns half the business because he gave away a lot of the the the business to employees. And I was uh asking him about it. And by the way, in 2023, they did 180 million revenue and $45 million in EBITDA in profit. And so he’s been able to make like a significant amount of money. But the reason why Mike was so fascinating to me is he’s based in Oklahoma. So he’s just like real soft, sweet, wonderful, nice guy. He’s uh I’m sure he’s aggressive in business, but when you’re just hanging out with him, he’s like a sweet man. And he was like, I started this company because I wanted to do two things. One, I wanted to just build a business that I could hire people who I admire being around. And number two, he uh he’s like, I just wanted to give away a lot of money. Like I I feel like it’s my mission to like give away money. And so this guy, since the beginning of the company, the company has pledged to give seven or uh 10% of their profits away to charities and the people within the company vote where the charity goes to. And so he actually doesn’t have control. He set it up so everyone’s allowed to vote. But in the meantime, he’s been giving away all his money. And so he’s giving away something like $100,000 a month of like the Beckham family money. And he like said what is he’s like, I I’ve I’ve been able to save up like uh $4 million, but I’m still giving away something like a million dollars a year right now. And I don’t know if my $5 million liquid net worth is going to go up a significant amount because I intend to give as I go. And he’s been giving since the beginning. So he’s like, when it started, I was giving away 5,000 a month when I was making uh he said, uh what did he say? He was like, when I was making 200 grand a year, I was giving away 5,000 a month and my intention is to continue giving so when I die, I don’t have a lot left. I’ve given it away as I’ve gone. And he was like basically like, I kind of wanted to be generous when I was alive, not when I was dead, which is what a lot of people do. And I don’t know if I’m going to leave any money for my family or not. Maybe I’ll leave them enough that they have a little bit of something, but we’re going to give away most of this. He’s like, my net worth right now is probably $200 million based off the value of the business. I’m giving it all away. And I was so fascinated by this and it really actually inspired me. Not enough to take action because honestly, it’s still Oh my god. It’s still a bit fearful if I’m being honest. Like I’m so quite fearful of it. But he seemed so freaking happy talking about this. Do you give away any money at all like this? Uh a little bit. Yeah, not like this. Um sounds like he’s giving away 20% of his liquid net worth per year. Something like that. Yeah, like a significant sum. And and his liquid net worth is growing because he was like, this is the first year that the business, he’s like, we’re going to do 45 million in EBITDA. It’s the first year where like we don’t have any new ideas within the business, so we’re going to take a big fat dividend and I’m going to end up giving most of that away. Uh and I’m just going to give it away as I go. Two parts of this are impressive. One is uh money where your mouth is. There’s a lot of people that that talk about, oh, you know, I want to be able to give things away and then they live their whole life and they’re like, it’s like the Sam Bankman Frieds of the world where it’s Did you give any of it away? What what happened? What happened to that? He was giving as he goes. I think that’s really, really really great. Some of the happiest people I’ve met in life are the people that give the most. Same. Some of the most successful people I I know in life, um are people that give the most. And the the more interesting thing is of the people that give the most, they’ve been giving from the beginning. I think that’s the real takeaway is like the fallacy that when I have enough, then I’m going to give and it just creates this like internal fear of, you know, giving away, right? Um you know, this year last year we did when we had uh Scott Harrison on, I did the thing where I gave away my birthday. So I basically said, uh, I’m turning 35, I’m going to give $35,000 to Charity Water. I set it live on the pod so I can I can say that out loud here. And then I encourage people, hey, if you want to give me a gift, go to the Charity Water thing, donate the gift there. Do you know how much that raised? I think it raised like about another 30 or 35,000. I think it raised 30,000. So in total, this pod gave, you know, audience people gave 30,000, I gave 35,000. And it was an uncomfortable give. Like I I not that like it didn’t change anything in our life, but I when I went downstairs, I told my wife, I was like, yeah, on the pod, I got kind of inspired and I committed to giving away $35,000. And she was like, She was a punch you in the stomach really hard. Yeah, she was like, what are you doing? I was like, I’m helping people. And she’s like, help me. And I was like, what? And she’s like, take out the trash. I was like, okay, sorry. Um, but you know, it just in general, it was an un it was unfamiliar territory to just like that on a whim commit amount of money that’s, you know, meaningful. That’s a car, you know, that’s that’s like something. Um, and I really like the feeling. And every year I try to do that. I try to get to giving away in a way that’s meaningful to me. So the other thing we did is when Tony Robbins came on, we pledged to give away I think it was 40 or 50 tickets, uh each tickets, you know, 50 to $500 to $1,000 basically. Um, you know, so that’s another, you know, sort of 25 to 50 grand that we gave, but I’m like giving away an experience that was really meaningful to me that I think could help a lot of people. And so, um, by the way, I need to go pick the winners for that. That reminds me. So if you’ve been waiting, you didn’t miss out. I didn’t pick the winners yet. There’s like a thousand people to go through and I just left that pile of, you know, 2,000 applications. I was like, I’ll get to that when I have some free time. But I will do it. Um, but the idea is give an amount that’s slightly uncomfortable for you. I think that’s a uh a good practice that I’m just now doing. Last three years, I think I’ve done that and and probably should have been doing it earlier to be honest. I’ve not. I need to do it. And the reason it kind of interests me, and I was like, Mike, is it okay to be selfish about this? He’s like, well, yeah. So I was like, do you get tax advantages? He’s like, yeah, like it it we you can like you you can like there is some stuff I can capture. You’re trying to find the other reason to do it. Well, I he he was like, it’s like, he’s like, I’m not going to not take advantage of something like, but that’s not the reason why I do it, but it is it is a nice like uh cherry on top that I can take. But I was talking to him and I was like, you know what’s crazy to me? So he’s uh religious, but not in a way where like we disagree on anything. Uh like he’s very kind about his shit. And uh I was like, dude, if you’re telling me that you’re put here on earth to like please God by giving away money, I never want to bet against you. That’s like the best motivation on earth. You know what I mean? Like who who who wants to bet against that person? Uh like I don’t want to go against you. You’re going to like destroy everyone. You you you got the best motivation. And so what’s this thing on here about curse of of of uh oh, was it? It was familiar riches. I read it. I said family. I didn’t know when to break it to you that you thought I was saying family riches, but it says familiar riches. Here’s the transition. You talked about giving away money. This is the greed side of it. This is about making money. Okay, so I have noticed a pattern in myself and in many others, and I call it the curse of familiar riches. And here’s how the curse goes. You grow up thinking a certain amount of money means you’re rich. For me, that was always a million dollars. That’s why this podcast is called My First Million. I used to play games with, you know, my sister, whoever, it’d be, would you rather, would you cut off your pinky for a million dollars? Would you, and it was just like escalating what if scenarios. That’s an easy, yeah. Yeah, exactly. That was a starter. Yeah. Um, I never even asked about $10 million. Never thought about a billion dollars. I never even heard, honestly, I never heard the word like I never even heard people talk about billionaires, never knew a billionaire when I was growing up. It wasn’t even on my radar as a thing. Uh, I thought a million dollars was like all the money. So you have this idea of like what a ton of money feels like, but even a million dollars wasn’t my goal. It’s not like a million dollars was what the rich people have, that wasn’t what I thought I would have. And so I thought making six figures, $100,000 was like the goal. That was the you’ve made it line. When I met you and you were making six figures, I thought you were the wealthiest person I knew. It was a great feeling. I enjoyed being the wealthiest person you knew. Yeah, I was like, 150 grand a year. Oh my god. You’re like, in cash. Um, so anyways, I the the curse of familiar riches is you have you start with this amount of money that you think is a ton of money. And it is a ton of money to you at the time, it’s all relative. And then you get you you do it, right? So I graduated from college, I think my first job, well, my first thing was a startup and we were paying ourselves nothing. We were living off of we made $25,000 of prize money from a business plan competition. We lived off that, three of us. So we were, you know, eight grand a year or something. But then I got I we got kind of amp hired, I ended up getting a job and my job was paying me 120 grand a year. And I was laughing. I couldn’t believe that they were paying me that much money. And once I was making $125,000, $120,000, my brain, this is why it’s called familiar riches, my brain could think of many other ways that I could make $120,000. I could get another job doing this, I would maybe hear about an opportunity, I could realize that I could stitch these two things together and if I did those two things, it could be like $125,000. And so there are a once you get to a certain level, whatever that level is, it’s quite easy and familiar to come up with one or two other ways that you could make that same amount of money. And by the way, that exists at every level. At every level. This is the this is the problem. This is why this is the curse. And so the easy thing to do then is when you get to 100 grand, you realize, oh, I can go get this other job that would pay me 100 grand or even 120 grand or 150 grand. But it’s basically between a one and 2X of where you’re at. So you you can figure out how to make about what you’re at, 50% more or just double. But your brain breaks after you say, awesome, how do you make five times more? Yeah. And I remember hearing at the time like there’s a guy who makes $500,000 a year in salary. And it was stunning to me. I was like, he’s stealing the money from the company. There’s no way anybody could create that much value that they’re making a half a million dollars per year. He just gets paid that. That’s insane. Like and if you ask me, Sean, what’s the path? But you’re at 120 now, how do you get to 500? My brain would short circuit and break. And so what I did for many years was I did things that were very familiar and I found a way to one to 2X my earnings. And then when we got acquired by Twitch, whatever, and I got my package the the the here’s your upfront cash, and I sent it to my dad. And my dad, I think the most he ever made was 300 grand in his life. And a year, a salary. And um so I sent him the offer and he called me and he’s like, it just keeps going. I go, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He goes, yeah, I’m thinking about for the summer, how do I make $10 million in 90 days? And I was like, what? He goes, I thought the first line was the total amount and I was so excited. And that was the bonus, signing bonus. It’s like and then and then the next thing, he’s like, then they what is the RSU? What are these things? What are they giving you? And he he couldn’t believe it. He he emailed me again that three days later, he goes, I just read it again. I still can’t believe it. And he He like thought it was like a menu where you like pick one of the options. It turns out it turns out it’s more like a like a it added all up. And so and my brain broke too. So, what am I getting at here? Uh, after that, I started to ask questions. I started to realize, wow, there are people, forget making 500,000 a year, there’s people that make $2 million a year. There’s people that make $5 million a year. And so I started to use as a thought exercise, how does how would I make 10 times more than I’m making today? And at first, again, the brain broke. There was no answer. I sat down again the next day and I said, how do I make 10 how do I how do I make 10 times more than I’m currently making? Well, I guess if I was going to do that, I would and I and then you start to get creative. You’re like, is there anybody who makes that? Of course there are. What do they do? How do they do it? You start to reverse engineer some things. And then you add time into the equation. I remember we came on this podcast because I had a brain breaking conversation with Nikita Beer. We’re like, Nikita, what are you up to, man? You’re just sitting at Facebook, you’re just been four years, you’re just rotting away over there. What’s going on? He